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Seems expected. Everyone moved away when they announced it wasn't free anymore. https://support.oracle.com/knowledge/Middleware/2511229_1.html https://support.

by tyingq 5y ago

Seems expected. Everyone moved away when they announced it wasn't free anymore. https://support.oracle.com/knowledge/Middleware/2511229_1.html https://support.oracle.com/knowledge/Middleware/2511229_1.ht...

laurent92 5y ago
And it wasn’t possible to perform unattended installations, because they required to approve the license manually (“y” from keyboard input), so Oracle JDK was excluded from any Ansible/Puppet/Docker deployment or Linux distribution. Immediate roadblock.
- Spivak 5y ago
  You can absolutely programmatically have apt make arbitrary selections like this with debconf. debconf-set-selections is your friend.
  - lillecarl 5y ago
    yes | apt install whatever could work too.
    - 3np 5y ago
      or just apt -y
      - Zardoz84 5y ago
        It just worked great with the apt packages to install Oracle Java 7 and 8 (when that packages worked...)
      - capableweb 5y ago
        Not sure that would work in this case, `apt -y` would tell apt to skip confirmations, packages can still do their own confirmation. Also, NONINTERACTIVE=true (or what it is) I don't think would have worked either, as Oracle famously do their own thing.
- JazzXP 5y ago
  Wow, what a moronic decision by Oracle. Automating installations is so important, if you're deploying 1000 servers, to not be able to automate (even just for the one character button) is stupid.
  - ciupicri 5y ago
    I guess the license was so expensive that no one would have installed it on 1000 servers.
    - tyingq 5y ago
      Assuming each server was 4 cores, that's 4000 processors. So you get their bargain $15/month/core pricing versus the base $25/month/core pricing. Your monthly bill would be $60k. Presumably you would negotiate some additional discount, but still...ouch. https://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf https://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/java...
      - heelix 5y ago
        The thing that killed most folks was the virtualized machines. They price on host, not guest OS. Got a 4 core virtual machine on a 128 core host... 128 cores need to be licensed. Those small web apps became crazy expensive where physical hardware is discouraged.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - raverbashing 5y ago
    When lawyers come before engineering, that's what you get.
- xwolfi 5y ago
  Not true - you can zip it and paste it anywhere. I don't think anyone would use their installer in automated deployment...
- krzyk 5y ago
  It was easy to add it using cookies/or header - few Linux distributions did that this way.

by tyingq 5y ago

laurent92 5y ago

And it wasn’t possible to perform unattended installations, because they required to approve the license manually (“y” from keyboard input), so Oracle JDK was excluded from any Ansible/Puppet/Docker deployment or Linux distribution. Immediate roadblock.

Spivak 5y ago
You can absolutely programmatically have apt make arbitrary selections like this with debconf. debconf-set-selections is your friend.
- lillecarl 5y ago
  yes | apt install whatever could work too.
  - 3np 5y ago
    or just apt -y
    - Zardoz84 5y ago
      It just worked great with the apt packages to install Oracle Java 7 and 8 (when that packages worked...)
    - capableweb 5y ago
      Not sure that would work in this case, `apt -y` would tell apt to skip confirmations, packages can still do their own confirmation. Also, NONINTERACTIVE=true (or what it is) I don't think would have worked either, as Oracle famously do their own thing.
JazzXP 5y ago
Wow, what a moronic decision by Oracle. Automating installations is so important, if you're deploying 1000 servers, to not be able to automate (even just for the one character button) is stupid.
- ciupicri 5y ago
  I guess the license was so expensive that no one would have installed it on 1000 servers.
  - tyingq 5y ago
    Assuming each server was 4 cores, that's 4000 processors. So you get their bargain $15/month/core pricing versus the base $25/month/core pricing. Your monthly bill would be $60k. Presumably you would negotiate some additional discount, but still...ouch. https://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf https://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/java...
    - heelix 5y ago
      The thing that killed most folks was the virtualized machines. They price on host, not guest OS. Got a 4 core virtual machine on a 128 core host... 128 cores need to be licensed. Those small web apps became crazy expensive where physical hardware is discouraged.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- raverbashing 5y ago
  When lawyers come before engineering, that's what you get.
xwolfi 5y ago
Not true - you can zip it and paste it anywhere. I don't think anyone would use their installer in automated deployment...
krzyk 5y ago
It was easy to add it using cookies/or header - few Linux distributions did that this way.