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Isn't this old news? [0][1] [0]: https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-one-euro-home-websites/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-on

Isn't this old news? [0][1] [0]: https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-one-euro-home-websites/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-one-euro-home-w... [1]: https://1eurohouses.com/ https://1eurohouses.com/

yosito 5y ago
Super old news. I see this pop up every couple of months.
silisili 5y ago
Yep, and always with the same caveats. The dollar houses typically, but not always, need something like a house's real cost worth of renovation. There's no citizenship attached, so one can't just up and move into their new house. And of course, you'd really want to know Italian. This is all super reasonable, but makes for clickbait headlines.
- mdp2021 5y ago
  Please also note that those houses are supposed to be in declined tiny villages in the most remote places. Surely, you do not want to commute from there to a job in the city.
  - tluyben2 5y ago
    It is an acquired taste, but working remote as a software engineer and manager as I have been for decades, I cannot imagine anything better.
    - masklinn 5y ago
      > working remote That assumes there's viable internet connection, which is often not the case in small remote villages (that is one of the huge caveats).
      - vimy 5y ago
        That’s where Starlink comes in.
      - tluyben2 5y ago
        True, if you need that (I do), but I have not encountered issues since the past 15 or so years. Before that it was harder. Obviously there are places that have nothing: I have lived there too and that is a lot more hassle. For me still better than a city. Each their own.
    - foepys 5y ago
      Maybe this will change with Starlink or over time but usually remote places in Europe have really, really slow internet connections (if any) so they are not really suited for remote work unless you can do everything via Citrix or similar.
    - MomoXenosaga 5y ago
      I see this a lot. Don't you like culture or people? There's nothing out there, only ignorant old people.
  - vmception 5y ago
    > Surely, you do not want to commute from there to a job in the city. The 2010s called and wants last decade's arguments back.
    - schraeds 5y ago
      For a majority of people, and for whole swaths of the economy this will always still be true. Can't really bartend or lay bricks remotely.
      - aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
        Lay bricks? Wut? I thought most houses are 3d printed nowadays…
      - Retric 5y ago
        Yes and no. When software developers are working remotely their bartenders are going to be in the same areas. Cities can’t just be waitress jobs for other waitresses, they need a core of non service jobs to work.
        kibwen 5y ago
        To a point. Economies of scale will still exist for things that cannot be done remotely, which means that population density will continue to beget population density.
  - Mikeb85 5y ago
    Who said anything about commuting? These schemes are typically looking for remote workers or those looking to setup tourism businesses.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  > but makes for clickbait headlines. Would be more fun if it were Transylvania
- kube-system 5y ago
  There are (/recently have been) similar programs in the US too. They're not as valuable as clickbait though, because people here are familiar with how undesirable the locations generally are.
  - silisili 5y ago
    Yeah, the one I remember popping up was Olathe. They really tried to push it and make it sound nice. Would be better for them if there weren't an entire documentary episode about a community fear of foreigners and some murders.[1] Come for the money and housing assistance. Stay if you survive. 1 - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8119994/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8119994/
  - seattle_spring 5y ago
    Is it the same thing though? I would guess the most undesirable places in Italy are still much better than even some mediocre places in the US.
    - kube-system 5y ago
      The similar programs that I've seen (over the past 10 years) in mediocre locations in my area of the US were in better locations than the these ones in Italy. They were in commuting distance to good job markets, had good internet access, easy access to building materials, labor, and capital, basic public transport, etc. Those programs have since ended, because they were successful. I'd imagine any of these programs that are in good locations don't last long.
iso1210 5y ago
Yes, the article mentions it's been going for at least 10 years > Gangi has been completely transformed since it launched the one-euro housing craze in Italy in 2011, Mayor Francesco Paolo Migliazzo said. A medieval hamlet with frescoed churches and steep, narrow stone pathways, it was declared the most beautiful small town in Italy in 2014. Today, tour guides shuttle groups of visitors along historic and artistic walking routes. Alas it doesn't go very deep into how things have turned out for people buying the houses, or for the villages those houses are in
anyfactor 5y ago
If they don't get you with the price, they will certainly get you with regulations.

yosito 5y ago

Super old news. I see this pop up every couple of months.

silisili 5y ago

Yep, and always with the same caveats. The dollar houses typically, but not always, need something like a house's real cost worth of renovation. There's no citizenship attached, so one can't just up and move into their new house. And of course, you'd really want to know Italian. This is all super reasonable, but makes for clickbait headlines.

mdp2021 5y ago
Please also note that those houses are supposed to be in declined tiny villages in the most remote places. Surely, you do not want to commute from there to a job in the city.
- tluyben2 5y ago
  It is an acquired taste, but working remote as a software engineer and manager as I have been for decades, I cannot imagine anything better.
  - masklinn 5y ago
    > working remote That assumes there's viable internet connection, which is often not the case in small remote villages (that is one of the huge caveats).
    - vimy 5y ago
      That’s where Starlink comes in.
    - tluyben2 5y ago
      True, if you need that (I do), but I have not encountered issues since the past 15 or so years. Before that it was harder. Obviously there are places that have nothing: I have lived there too and that is a lot more hassle. For me still better than a city. Each their own.
  - foepys 5y ago
    Maybe this will change with Starlink or over time but usually remote places in Europe have really, really slow internet connections (if any) so they are not really suited for remote work unless you can do everything via Citrix or similar.
  - MomoXenosaga 5y ago
    I see this a lot. Don't you like culture or people? There's nothing out there, only ignorant old people.
- vmception 5y ago
  > Surely, you do not want to commute from there to a job in the city. The 2010s called and wants last decade's arguments back.
  - schraeds 5y ago
    For a majority of people, and for whole swaths of the economy this will always still be true. Can't really bartend or lay bricks remotely.
    - aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
      Lay bricks? Wut? I thought most houses are 3d printed nowadays…
    - Retric 5y ago
      Yes and no. When software developers are working remotely their bartenders are going to be in the same areas. Cities can’t just be waitress jobs for other waitresses, they need a core of non service jobs to work.
      - kibwen 5y ago
        To a point. Economies of scale will still exist for things that cannot be done remotely, which means that population density will continue to beget population density.
- Mikeb85 5y ago
  Who said anything about commuting? These schemes are typically looking for remote workers or those looking to setup tourism businesses.
rbanffy 5y ago
> but makes for clickbait headlines. Would be more fun if it were Transylvania
kube-system 5y ago
There are (/recently have been) similar programs in the US too. They're not as valuable as clickbait though, because people here are familiar with how undesirable the locations generally are.
- silisili 5y ago
  Yeah, the one I remember popping up was Olathe. They really tried to push it and make it sound nice. Would be better for them if there weren't an entire documentary episode about a community fear of foreigners and some murders.[1] Come for the money and housing assistance. Stay if you survive. 1 - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8119994/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8119994/
- seattle_spring 5y ago
  Is it the same thing though? I would guess the most undesirable places in Italy are still much better than even some mediocre places in the US.
  - kube-system 5y ago
    The similar programs that I've seen (over the past 10 years) in mediocre locations in my area of the US were in better locations than the these ones in Italy. They were in commuting distance to good job markets, had good internet access, easy access to building materials, labor, and capital, basic public transport, etc. Those programs have since ended, because they were successful. I'd imagine any of these programs that are in good locations don't last long.

iso1210 5y ago

Yes, the article mentions it's been going for at least 10 years > Gangi has been completely transformed since it launched the one-euro housing craze in Italy in 2011, Mayor Francesco Paolo Migliazzo said. A medieval hamlet with frescoed churches and steep, narrow stone pathways, it was declared the most beautiful small town in Italy in 2014. Today, tour guides shuttle groups of visitors along historic and artistic walking routes. Alas it doesn't go very deep into how things have turned out for people buying the houses, or for the villages those houses are in

anyfactor 5y ago

If they don't get you with the price, they will certainly get you with regulations.