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The idea of finally talking to something we’ve been killing for resources for centuries is kinda weird.
by booleandilemma 5y ago
The idea of finally talking to something we’ve been killing for resources for centuries is kinda weird.
- ceejayoz 5y agoWe should probably pick “whoops, our bad” as one of the early translation goals.
- Shorel 5y agoThen the whales will learn not to trust anything we say. Happened to indigenous people in the Americas.
- ncmncm 5y ago"White Man speak with forked tongue".
- cute_boi 5y agoBut now these clever people will bring incentives etc to entice these creatures. Just depends on how much economic incentive these whales bring to the table. Happens to many politicians by rich/powerful people across the world.
- ceejayoz 5y agoThat seems like it should be lesson #1 when dealing with humans; that we lie, effortlessly.
- nzmsv 5y agohttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6787874-on-20-july-1969-neil-armstrong-and-buzz-aldrin-landed https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6787874-on-20-july-1969-nei...
- hirundo 5y agoOnly the "finally". We've been talking to other humans and then killing them for resources for a very long time.
- johnchristopher 5y agoWe've always been able to talk with those humans though and most of the times we fight them for their resources, not their bodies.
- Nevermark 5y agoHumans were often raped and enslaved when they were pillaged. Sometimes used for food or entertainment. It is a sad truth that humans had little trouble viewing other humans as resources.
- johnchristopher 5y agoYou're right. Before recent centuries wars were often fought to acquire slaves since it equaled free work power and women to breed children in case of population declines. It just stroke me while reading a bit of trivia about the Vikings show I have been watching two seasons of and yet I didn't realize their motivation for raiding and plundering was acquiring human resources.
- DarknessFalls 5y agoTo hunt a species to extinction is not logical. Edit: Because the topic is about communicating with Whales and my response was to a comment about hunting them, I thought it would be appropriate to reference something Spock said in Star Trek IV. Colloquially known as "The one with the whales".
- 1cvmask 5y agoMost indigenous tribes were hunted to extinction by colonial settlers. Now some of the descendants of the colonial settlers subsume their heritage to get preferential access to colleges and jobs.
- version_five 5y agoThere are many (maybe all) examples from nature in which resources will get consumed until they are gone. "Logic" has nothing to do with it. That doesn't mean we should hunt species to extinction, but its definitely a natural thing to do.
- st_goliath 5y ago> "Logic" has nothing to do with it. I guess the GP post is simply a direct quote from "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" (where IIRC Spock says something along those lines while he and Kirk visit a 20th century museum). Whales, their extinction and communicating with them was central to the plot of that film. EDIT: Ok, I looked it up. This exact quote is in the movie, verbatim, in the scene I mentioned. At around 00:47:39
- DarknessFalls 5y agoCorrect. I think we're entering an era where Star Trek is largely forgotten. As opposed to two decades ago (right column): https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/gallery/icq-2001 https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/gallery/icq-2001
- slowmovintarget 5y ago
- coldtea 5y agoNot that different to talking to colonized people and ex-slave descendants...
- candlemas 5y agoI can't wait for Moby Dick to be translated into spermwhalese.
- riffraff 5y agowe've done that with people for a very long time. Even today, there are reports of african pygmies still being treated as slaves or hunted for both sport and cannibalism[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Pygmies#Enslavement,_cannibalism,_and_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Pygmies#Enslavement,_c...