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Forth is not under the radar in any sense. It is much more popular and well known than any underground band.

caslon 5y ago
It's pretty under the radar. Your perception is probably being influenced by your online forum of choice. HN has around a dozen members who frequently post FORTH-related content, and a moderator that has sympathy for the language and frequently offers second-chances to posts about it. I can definitely think of underground bands more popular than it and significantly more well known than it despite still being absolutely under the radar, because it only has, upper bound, ten thousand people who actually program in it. That's basically a single college radio station play's worth.
- joeberon 5y ago
  If I see it frequently on HN (possibly the most popular tech forum in the world??) and also /r/programming, then it is NOT underground.
  - caslon 5y ago
    HN is absolutely not the most popular tech forum in the world (most stories struggle to get half a thousand votes, and the actual rate of access for HN is so low that dang is alarmed when he sees more than sixty logged-in queries a second[0]), and reddit just reposts what's on HN. You're conflating "I read this" with "The world reads this." This is a common error. The trick is to realize that your experience with the internet is not universal, and that it is unlikely you are the average user in any group you're in. Further, it doesn't even show up on the subreddit you mention very often; I just checked the reddit BigQuery database and FORTH posts don't collect a portion of upvotes worth mentioning in any given year. Also: Using superfluous question marks for emphasis is a reddit habit. It should not be done on HN, because it is annoying and lowers the quality of discussion; the guidelines forbid uppercase-emphasis for this reason, and this is more egregious. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26473226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26473226

It's pretty under the radar. Your perception is probably being influenced by your online forum of choice. HN has around a dozen members who frequently post FORTH-related content, and a moderator that has sympathy for the language and frequently offers second-chances to posts about it. I can definitely think of underground bands more popular than it and significantly more well known than it despite still being absolutely under the radar, because it only has, upper bound, ten thousand people who actually program in it. That's basically a single college radio station play's worth.

joeberon 5y ago
If I see it frequently on HN (possibly the most popular tech forum in the world??) and also /r/programming, then it is NOT underground.
- caslon 5y ago
  HN is absolutely not the most popular tech forum in the world (most stories struggle to get half a thousand votes, and the actual rate of access for HN is so low that dang is alarmed when he sees more than sixty logged-in queries a second[0]), and reddit just reposts what's on HN. You're conflating "I read this" with "The world reads this." This is a common error. The trick is to realize that your experience with the internet is not universal, and that it is unlikely you are the average user in any group you're in. Further, it doesn't even show up on the subreddit you mention very often; I just checked the reddit BigQuery database and FORTH posts don't collect a portion of upvotes worth mentioning in any given year. Also: Using superfluous question marks for emphasis is a reddit habit. It should not be done on HN, because it is annoying and lowers the quality of discussion; the guidelines forbid uppercase-emphasis for this reason, and this is more egregious. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26473226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26473226