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I actually found nier automatas story beats so cringey that I was turned off on the playing of it, honestly. Pretty early on a pile of robots start an orgy that

I actually found nier automatas story beats so cringey that I was turned off on the playing of it, honestly. Pretty early on a pile of robots start an orgy that creates a human-looking clearly-not-a-human villain. It felt totally directionless and random at the time. I didn’t really want to continue if I was just going to get weird shit happening with an overlay of philosophical hand waving.

yunusabd 5y ago
Yeah I get that, for me there were enough interesting things to offset the cringy bits. Just off the top of my head, I remember being intrigued by the robots-trying-to-be-human thing, and how consistent they were with the fact that you're an android. For example, removing your OS chip actually killed you, which is one of the 26 possible endings iirk. That and the dynamic combat and the smooth mix of different genres were enough to keep me going.
hhjinks 5y ago
You got 2 hours into the game and dropped it because you felt the themes were surface level? You were unironically filtered. The game does name drop a lot philosophers, but it's meant to contextualize, not as part of the game's themes. Hell, the game doesn't even care about the "humans and robots aren't actually so different" question. I don't want to write a whole essay, so I'll just say that Automata is probably the best existentialist story written this decade, with a lot of subtle details, some _great_ acting, and melding of story and gameplay that has not even been attempted elsewhere. It is unique, and uniquely excellent, beyond the point where it can just be described as "a fantastic game". Doom 2016 is a fantastic game. Nier Automata is a game I've had as much fun thinking and writing about as I had playing it.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  If a game wastes two hours of my time without being able to appear like it has any direction I truly question the quality of its storytelling. If I want existentialism I can get it in a 10 minute long flash fiction piece from Fireside Fiction.
- watwut 5y ago
  If the artwork or entertainment is still surface level after 2 hours, then it is 100% smart to drop it. It is just absurd to waste more then 2 hours on something like that.

yunusabd 5y ago

Yeah I get that, for me there were enough interesting things to offset the cringy bits. Just off the top of my head, I remember being intrigued by the robots-trying-to-be-human thing, and how consistent they were with the fact that you're an android. For example, removing your OS chip actually killed you, which is one of the 26 possible endings iirk. That and the dynamic combat and the smooth mix of different genres were enough to keep me going.

hhjinks 5y ago

You got 2 hours into the game and dropped it because you felt the themes were surface level? You were unironically filtered. The game does name drop a lot philosophers, but it's meant to contextualize, not as part of the game's themes. Hell, the game doesn't even care about the "humans and robots aren't actually so different" question. I don't want to write a whole essay, so I'll just say that Automata is probably the best existentialist story written this decade, with a lot of subtle details, some _great_ acting, and melding of story and gameplay that has not even been attempted elsewhere. It is unique, and uniquely excellent, beyond the point where it can just be described as "a fantastic game". Doom 2016 is a fantastic game. Nier Automata is a game I've had as much fun thinking and writing about as I had playing it.

SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
If a game wastes two hours of my time without being able to appear like it has any direction I truly question the quality of its storytelling. If I want existentialism I can get it in a 10 minute long flash fiction piece from Fireside Fiction.
watwut 5y ago
If the artwork or entertainment is still surface level after 2 hours, then it is 100% smart to drop it. It is just absurd to waste more then 2 hours on something like that.