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Not junon, but I agree with them. I have a chemistry degree, years of chemical safety training, years of practice as a fire artist and performer, and a huge fan
by kortex 5y ago
Not junon, but I agree with them. I have a chemistry degree, years of chemical safety training, years of practice as a fire artist and performer, and a huge fan of all these high energy science channels. My hobby is basically doing this same kind of "don't try at home" content, sans uploading it, and in fact the thought has crossed my mind to start a channel.
There is only so much "don't try this at home" disclaimers can do. NurdRage and NileRed probably have the best disclaimers, but even then they are no excuse for actual safety training and experience. There is too much to cram into one safety brief.
Should we censor all woodworking videos of old timers with outdated safety habits?
There comes a point of "we are all adults here" and if you are not, you are probably a dumbshit teenager doing dumbshit stuff without adults knowing. I got my start doing dumbshit dangerous chemistry without any assistance of YouTube, it was all forums for me and there were no warnings, it was just implied that what you are doing has risks and you should look into them. And yeah I had my injuries and near misses, nothing awful thankfully.
If you have any inkling of self preservation, you learn what is required for at least a modicum of safety, and you ask questions of those also in the hobby how to do things safely. The great thing about these channels is that they nucleate and create a nexus for people interested in this stuff, often on Reddit, which is like the one-forum-to-rule-them-all (though I do rather miss the phpbb ones depth)
I think what bugs me about this attitude is it basically implies sharing dangerous knowledge is unethical. Let's say we censor StyroPyro, are people going to suddenly not be tempted? No, they are just going to find other outlets for their curiosity.
- avianlyric 5y agoAgain, at no point have in endorsed censorship. In fact I quite explicitly said I don’t endorse censorship. I just saying that people can do a better job of sign posting the risks, and pointing people to resources to help them learn about the risks, and how to mitigate them, without having to sacrifice fingers and toes. > you are probably a dumbshit teenager doing dumbshit stuff without adults knowing. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to help them understand the risks. We’ve all been dumb shit teenagers at some point. The lucky one have adult mentors that help do dumb shit without killing themselves, I don’t see why we can’t aspire to make videos that provide that guidance to everyone.
- kortex 5y agoI can definitely get behind the sentiment, but it becomes a game of "how much is enough?" Like take woodworking. There are a lot of operations on the table saw which require certain techniques to prevent pinching and firing the piece at high speed. Does every video that features a table saw deserve a safety brief on all the things you shouldn't do with a table saw? Or can we just delegate to a safety FAQ and maybe the manual of the saw in question? More topically, what if we just put all the laser safety stuff in a laser FAQ? https://styropyro.com/laser-faq/ https://styropyro.com/laser-faq/
- avianlyric 5y agoDon’t see anything wrong with putting it all in an FAQ. But then you should at least call out the FAQ in the video at the relevant point. Something simple like “this is very dangerous, make sure you educate yourself before trying anything similar, see my FAQ linked in the description as a place to get started”.