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We decided to go for Office365 for our 3 person startup, and against G docs or whatever they call it nowadays. I gotta say it sucks! OneDrive isn’t syncing pro

We decided to go for Office365 for our 3 person startup, and against G docs or whatever they call it nowadays. I gotta say it sucks! OneDrive isn’t syncing properly. Working with people outside your org is hell. We’re going to switch to Google soon enough.

Closi 5y ago
Eh, I've got to say again that my experience is the opposite, so I guess everyone has different views on this! I'll agree the Sync isn't as good as Google, but I find the Microsoft Office 365 apps so much better if you need to spend lots of time in them every day. I've used the google alternatives and there are always limitations you end up hitting (As an example, I was working in google docs the other day and was pretty surprised that I couldn't even choose a custom page size and in order to set a custom page size I had to download an add-in - this sort of thing means the products just don't feel as built-out as the Microsoft ones). Never found an issue sharing things with clients - you just drop the files into a folder and send them a sharing link (and decide to allow them to edit or not).
- shoto_io 5y ago
  Yeah, maybe I’m just dumb and can’t figure it out properly. I dump files on my computer and they don’t end up on my colleagues laptop. So we end up resetting OneDrive on his Mac, which sometimes solves the issue. I have shared links with clients but then they suddenly can’t access the folder any longer. So I share it again. I agree that the apps are good, but only in the desktop version. The web apps have still a long way to go.
  - easton 5y ago
    Yeah, OneDrive for Mac is where OneDrive for Windows was up until two or so years ago when they finally made it stable. They are apparently working on it, but when they haven't even been able to recompile for M1 I don't know when that work will appear.
- sagarm 5y ago
  If your core use case is collaboration, GSuite is the best option IMO. If you have more of a desktop publishing mindset, the Microsoft suite has way more options. Personally I have zero need for WordArt or custom page sizes, but rely on the collaboration features in docs to hammer out designs, share analyses, and put together presentations. Nothing I produce is meant to be printed out.
  - shoto_io 5y ago
    What's your view on the "new kids on the block" like notion?
    - yaseer 5y ago
      We use notion increasingly extensively, and also use G Suite. It's a strange beast - you think it's for note-taking, but it's capable of so much more. It doesn't try to do the abstractions of the office productivity suite like Documents and Presentations. Instead, it works with new abstractions, like 'Data Types' and 'Templates'. I could see this becoming the norm going forward - but you have to shift your thinking to their model.

Closi 5y ago

Eh, I've got to say again that my experience is the opposite, so I guess everyone has different views on this! I'll agree the Sync isn't as good as Google, but I find the Microsoft Office 365 apps so much better if you need to spend lots of time in them every day. I've used the google alternatives and there are always limitations you end up hitting (As an example, I was working in google docs the other day and was pretty surprised that I couldn't even choose a custom page size and in order to set a custom page size I had to download an add-in - this sort of thing means the products just don't feel as built-out as the Microsoft ones). Never found an issue sharing things with clients - you just drop the files into a folder and send them a sharing link (and decide to allow them to edit or not).

shoto_io 5y ago
Yeah, maybe I’m just dumb and can’t figure it out properly. I dump files on my computer and they don’t end up on my colleagues laptop. So we end up resetting OneDrive on his Mac, which sometimes solves the issue. I have shared links with clients but then they suddenly can’t access the folder any longer. So I share it again. I agree that the apps are good, but only in the desktop version. The web apps have still a long way to go.
- easton 5y ago
  Yeah, OneDrive for Mac is where OneDrive for Windows was up until two or so years ago when they finally made it stable. They are apparently working on it, but when they haven't even been able to recompile for M1 I don't know when that work will appear.
sagarm 5y ago
If your core use case is collaboration, GSuite is the best option IMO. If you have more of a desktop publishing mindset, the Microsoft suite has way more options. Personally I have zero need for WordArt or custom page sizes, but rely on the collaboration features in docs to hammer out designs, share analyses, and put together presentations. Nothing I produce is meant to be printed out.
- shoto_io 5y ago
  What's your view on the "new kids on the block" like notion?
  - yaseer 5y ago
    We use notion increasingly extensively, and also use G Suite. It's a strange beast - you think it's for note-taking, but it's capable of so much more. It doesn't try to do the abstractions of the office productivity suite like Documents and Presentations. Instead, it works with new abstractions, like 'Data Types' and 'Templates'. I could see this becoming the norm going forward - but you have to shift your thinking to their model.