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CO2 is only emitted during mining and refining because the grid itself isn't clean. The same thing is true of solar panels and batteries until the grid is made
by mlindner 5y ago
CO2 is only emitted during mining and refining because the grid itself isn't clean. The same thing is true of solar panels and batteries until the grid is made green. But you can't say "we can't make green tech because it would produce CO2" as it completely ignores the lifetime of things.
> in storing nuclear waste for 100000 years
That's a red herring. You only need to store nuclear waste for around 100 years (or less) before it can be treated as "low level nuclear waste" of which tons of it is generated as byproducts of the medical industry. It doesn't need to be sequestered away, it can be buried safely like all the rest of the low level waste. At that point it's more toxic than it is radioactive so it just needs to be buried in a way that it won't enter the water table.
> In Germany we started tearing down the GDRs only nuclear power plant in the early 90s and we‘re still not done.
Germany is also building tons of highly polluting (and radioactive waste pumped into the air) lignite coal power plants because they shot themselves in the foot by shutting down their very successful nuclear industry. They should look to France for an example on how one should treat nuclear power.
- beders 5y agooh yeah, the French are so confident with their nuclear power plants they built many of them on their eastern border (with mostly west winds blowing any fall out nicely into Belgium and Germany)
- mlindner 5y agoOh please. Don't lie on hacker news, especially on something so verifiable. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Nuclear_power_plants_map_France-fr.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Nuclear_... And another version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nuclear_power_plants_map_France-en_2.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nuclear_power_plants_map_...
- whatever1 5y agoWow, just avoided all of the points with what-about answers
- mlindner 5y agoNo, they're not what-about answers. They're cause and effect. Germany's coal sector is growing BECAUSE of shutting down it's nuclear sector. The other points are simply false (nuclear waste isn't dangerous for nearly as long, and his CO2 comment is actually a "what-about" complaint as a reason to not want nuclear power).