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I'm not sure how this can be done, but remove location association from IP. It annoys me to no end that google changes the language based on my location rather

I'm not sure how this can be done, but remove location association from IP. It annoys me to no end that google changes the language based on my location rather than my preference (sometimes with no obvious way to fix it). It would also stop the annoying country restrictions on websites.

p1mrx 5y ago
There is no inherent location information in an IP address, but those packets have to physically go somewhere at 2/3 light speed. We could design a network like Tor where the routing is geographically oblivious, but then everywhere on Earth would have the same (very slow) ping time. It is saner to make a fast network, and then layer an anonymous one on top of it.
- londgine 5y ago
  starlink is the current solution that I am hoping for
  - p1mrx 5y ago
    Starlink raises the speed from 2/3*c to 1*c, but IP addresses are still anchored to a location... otherwise the latency would suck. You can geolocate any fast internet connection by measuring its latency to various points on Earth.
    - londgine 5y ago
      > You can geolocate any fast internet connection by measuring its latency to various points on Earth. How would you be able to differentiate 20 degrees east of the server with 20 degrees west of the server?
      - p1mrx 5y ago
        Use multiple servers.
salawat 5y ago
Geolocation of IP blocks is basically all Google et al's fault. Once you go around wardriving to map all the infrastructure.... Well.. you get what they paid for.
- wmf 5y ago
  GeoIP stuff existed long before Google Maps. It doesn't help that ISPs put tons of geographical info in reverse DNS. (Once upon a time my ISP's first-hop router had my street name in it!)
toast0 5y ago
There's Accept-Language, except that it's not really usable. Nobody sets it, so nobody relies on it, and anyway you can't tell it useful things like 'i know these 3 languages, in preference order, but if the original content is either one, use that instead of a translation to my more preferred language'. Websites that use IP to guess which language or country site you prefer aren't great, but there's nothing great to do.

p1mrx 5y ago

There is no inherent location information in an IP address, but those packets have to physically go somewhere at 2/3 light speed. We could design a network like Tor where the routing is geographically oblivious, but then everywhere on Earth would have the same (very slow) ping time. It is saner to make a fast network, and then layer an anonymous one on top of it.

londgine 5y ago
starlink is the current solution that I am hoping for
- p1mrx 5y ago
  Starlink raises the speed from 2/3*c to 1*c, but IP addresses are still anchored to a location... otherwise the latency would suck. You can geolocate any fast internet connection by measuring its latency to various points on Earth.
  - londgine 5y ago
    > You can geolocate any fast internet connection by measuring its latency to various points on Earth. How would you be able to differentiate 20 degrees east of the server with 20 degrees west of the server?
    - p1mrx 5y ago
      Use multiple servers.

salawat 5y ago

Geolocation of IP blocks is basically all Google et al's fault. Once you go around wardriving to map all the infrastructure.... Well.. you get what they paid for.

wmf 5y ago
GeoIP stuff existed long before Google Maps. It doesn't help that ISPs put tons of geographical info in reverse DNS. (Once upon a time my ISP's first-hop router had my street name in it!)

toast0 5y ago

There's Accept-Language, except that it's not really usable. Nobody sets it, so nobody relies on it, and anyway you can't tell it useful things like 'i know these 3 languages, in preference order, but if the original content is either one, use that instead of a translation to my more preferred language'. Websites that use IP to guess which language or country site you prefer aren't great, but there's nothing great to do.