> that's exactly what I said 40-plus years ago when I got out. I saw many of the same problems when I was in the Navy 30-ish years ago. But some seem to have g

> that's exactly what I said 40-plus years ago when I got out. I saw many of the same problems when I was in the Navy 30-ish years ago. But some seem to have gotten worse; from the report to Congress that was linked to upthread, what jumped out at me was the increasing micromanagement from flag officers and the lack of teaching basic ship handling and warfighting skills.