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You're right. I miswrote. I will concede that leftwingers never insist on no intergroup differences. What actually happens is that the moment you even bring up
by jlawson 5y ago
You're right. I miswrote. I will concede that leftwingers never insist on no intergroup differences. What actually happens is that the moment you even bring up the question, they go into "label and destroy" mode. Which means they call you names and focus on harming and silencing you. They never engage with the content of the discussion, unless you're good friends talking in private, so there's no need for them to insist on anything.
Please dont' try to deny the consequences at play here.
We live in an extremely heavily-policed overton window on these issues and there are serious consequences in play.
If you go and start asking, talking, and posting about e.g. IQ differences between races, it will seriously impact any career in tech, media, academia, law, education, and basically any other high-status field. It'll also seriously impact your social life in any city in America.
If you matter at all you'll also attract a cloud of motivated online harassers who will contact your employer, friends, spouse all trying to damage you as much as possible.
This is true even if you never make "unsupported claims that particular outcome differences are due to such differences". It's very easy to support such claims, since there's extremely strong evidence of a causal link from IQ to outcome differences, and there is similarly strong evidence that IQ is linked to group genetics.
And it's impossible to talk about IQ of population groups without people assuming you're making such claims about outcome differences, or putting those words in your mouth so they can come after you.
- dash2 5y agoIt seems relevant to point out that somebody flagged this article. Hey, @dang, author here. I don’t think this deserves flagging! The topic is serious and worth thinking about. Update: I don’t think you’re correct, however, that there is “strong evidence that IQ is linked to group genetics“. This is, for both scientific and political reasons, a very difficult area to work in, and I don’t believe the evidence is in to either support or rebut that claim.
- dash2 5y agoUpdate: unflagged, thank you.
- ernst_10 5y ago> This is, for both scientific and political reasons, a very difficult area to work in, and I don’t believe the evidence is in to either support or rebut that claim. The default position should be a heavy bias towards believing the genetic explanation is at least somewhat correct. Within group heritability may not directly imply between group heritability, but it makes it very likely. The left is too intellectually dishonest to admit that. jlawson is correct, it's been basically game over for the strong environmentalist position since Lasker et al 2019.