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That's why the establishment and corporate journalists are coming after the likes of independent journalists like Glen Greenwald and Matt Taibbi: https://nymag

That's why the establishment and corporate journalists are coming after the likes of independent journalists like Glen Greenwald and Matt Taibbi: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-matt-taibbi.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-mat... Also this part in discussion with journalists Chris Hedges and Glenn Greenwald with Edward Snowden is interesting on how corporate media and corporate journalists work to hide the truth or create fake news: https://youtu.be/sP76tolGrho?t=4682 https://youtu.be/sP76tolGrho?t=4682

jjeaff 5y ago
I doubt the establishment cares whether they are good or not. They care that they are stealing eyes away from their own publications.
footlose_3815 5y ago
greenwald went weird after wikileaks. he went even weirder after Trump. I recall him saying some thing is never expect him to during the Trump years
- pstuart 5y ago
  "russiagate" has the feel of the effective deflection that Karl Rove engineered for GWB over his AWOL incident -- release a convincing fake that substantiated the narrative and then once it's accepted to reveal the forgery and shift all focus to that, rather than Bush's indiscretions. I admire the deftness of that trickery but have no love for the substance of it.
pstuart 5y ago
I've been thrown by Greenwald's and Taibbi's shift to the right. In the case of Taibbi it seems like he's still butthurt by getting beaten up over #metoo stuff. Of course there's plenty to criticize about mainstream media and "leftism", but Taibbi's critiques seem to be significantly aligned with right wing messaging. I "lean left" but like to consider myself as non-ideological and when I checked what he's had to say lately it seems to be devoid of criticism of the right. I'm not writing this to condemn him, I'm genuinely puzzled. Counter examples welcomed. Edit: I was curious about Taibbi's change in tone and searched to see if I was alone in this and came across this: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-matt-taibbi.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-mat...

jjeaff 5y ago

I doubt the establishment cares whether they are good or not. They care that they are stealing eyes away from their own publications.

footlose_3815 5y ago

greenwald went weird after wikileaks. he went even weirder after Trump. I recall him saying some thing is never expect him to during the Trump years

pstuart 5y ago
"russiagate" has the feel of the effective deflection that Karl Rove engineered for GWB over his AWOL incident -- release a convincing fake that substantiated the narrative and then once it's accepted to reveal the forgery and shift all focus to that, rather than Bush's indiscretions. I admire the deftness of that trickery but have no love for the substance of it.

pstuart 5y ago

I've been thrown by Greenwald's and Taibbi's shift to the right. In the case of Taibbi it seems like he's still butthurt by getting beaten up over #metoo stuff. Of course there's plenty to criticize about mainstream media and "leftism", but Taibbi's critiques seem to be significantly aligned with right wing messaging. I "lean left" but like to consider myself as non-ideological and when I checked what he's had to say lately it seems to be devoid of criticism of the right. I'm not writing this to condemn him, I'm genuinely puzzled. Counter examples welcomed. Edit: I was curious about Taibbi's change in tone and searched to see if I was alone in this and came across this: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-matt-taibbi.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/what-happened-to-mat...