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Never mind what new features will come, I hope it'll always be backwards compatible with MIDI 1.0. MIDI today is so universal and so easy to understand, even on
by odiroot 5y ago
Never mind what new features will come, I hope it'll always be backwards compatible with MIDI 1.0. MIDI today is so universal and so easy to understand, even on the very low hardware level.
- pknopf 5y agoI don't know how it would be if they are switching from 8 bit to 32 bit. I imagine most devices that come with MIDI 2.0 will have an option to run in either 1 or 2.
- Rochus 5y agoThe physical layer is completely different; Midi 1.0 was a current loop with DIN five-pin connectors; Midi 2.0 uses Ethernet and Wifi.
- LegitShady 5y agoThe physical layer is the easiest thing to get an adapter for. It's the logic and processing that is hard to make cross/back compatible.
- Rochus 5y agoI don't think that the new 32 bit packet based protocol will run over the 31kBit/s current loop.
- romwell 5y ago>The physical layer is the easiest thing to get an adapter for Oh really? Riddle me this, then: a MIDI controller has a USB port. A synth has a USB port. Connect the two without using an external power source for the adapter (Hint: you can't).
- LegitShady 5y agoYou're actually proving my point, rather than disproving it. Thanks, I guess?
- romwell 5y agoWhat's your point? (And how do you define the physical layer?) The data transmitted over MIDI and USB MIDI is the same, it's not the problem. It's the same protocol. The problem is that MIDI OUT on a MIDI controller supplies power, and USB midi out on a device DOES NOT, because it's a slave device. This a physical layer problem no matter how you slice it. Now go and read the question I asked again.
- LegitShady 5y agoYou're talking like what you say isn't the same thing I already said. Maybe re-read what I said that you replied to from the beginning.
- romwell 5y agoYeah I did, and you said: > Physical layer is the easiest thing to get an adapter for I'm saying it's not.
- LegitShady 5y agoAnd then immediately talked about host slave issues which are not physical but logical and processing. Perhaps you don't understand what physical means? Truthfully there is nothing to be gained for me continuing this exchange because I in fact have plugged a Keith McMillen k-board into an op-z and a circuit rhythm and noticed it working perfectly, so your truisms are just that you don't know any synths that are battery powered usb hosts, a problem which is entirely unrelated to your inability to understand the difference between physical connectors and the logical models and data processing issues you described as physical in some weird need to repeat what I said while insisting I am wrong. Have a good one.
- LegitShady 5y agoAgreed. I have thousands of dollars of equipment using 5 pin midi connectors that all use current midi. If new devices come out they're going to need to work with the rest of my setup, or they're going to be a hard sell.
- md8z 5y agoI don't see why someone couldn't make an adapter from 1 -> 2. I think the other way around would be lossy and not desirable.
- em3rgent0rdr 5y agoany adapter may add latency.