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Good friend of mine is a white male O-4 BN in the Navy, previously a marine, from a family of predominantly white men in the Navy/military in general, with fema

by s5300 5y ago

Good friend of mine is a white male O-4 BN in the Navy, previously a marine, from a family of predominantly white men in the Navy/military in general, with female family members also in the military. He first started talking to me about this "perceived issue" you speak of back in the beginning of 2019. Has repeatedly stated is the most hilariously stupid white nationalist and incel-esque shit he's ever had to hear about or deal with Along with the fact that everybody he's observed as a marine and a Navy BN spouting off about it is typically an obnoxious douche who everybody hates and is generally incompetent at some of the easiest jobs our government provides citizens. So, after reading what you've posted, the theme of it seems to line up with his, his families, and all of his higher ranking friends observations - just another person butthurt about females and people who aren't white, likely because you feel you've somehow been wronged by them in life or have other issues you need therapy for. But go on about this being the issue, and not many of the clearly observered, defined, and reported on issues that the Navy/US Military in general is facing. Hint: one of them is white nationalists, and the poor quality of service/general incompetence and questions about loyalty that typically come with them. Losers is something I can recall him repeatedly referring to them as, but I'm not sure how appropriate that is for HN. And, since we're in the thread about the Bonhomme - I'll mention he has some very nice footage of the fire from Coronado bridge.

twofornone 5y ago
It's pretty gross that in light of clear evidence of widespread discrimination you dismiss legitimate complaints with generic and shallow accusations of inceldom, white nationalism, and incompetence. Reverse racism is still racism. Step back for a moment and consider what psychological effect such explicitly discriminatory policy may have on any demographic on the receiving end. Explicitly assigning disadvantages according to immutable characteristics fuels so called "white nationalism", as do blithe dismissals such as yours. You can't have it both ways - either you attempt to hire by merit or you acknowledge that you are motivating self-preserving movements in demographics which perceive discrimination. There's also a certain selection bias among those willing to complain. Generally those with good career prospects are far more likely to keep their heads down rather than risk repercussions for speaking against top down D&I pressure - so the fact that the loudest may not be stellar examples of good soldiering does not imply that this perceived discrimination is not more widespread among otherwise competent personell.

by s5300 5y ago

twofornone 5y ago

It's pretty gross that in light of clear evidence of widespread discrimination you dismiss legitimate complaints with generic and shallow accusations of inceldom, white nationalism, and incompetence. Reverse racism is still racism. Step back for a moment and consider what psychological effect such explicitly discriminatory policy may have on any demographic on the receiving end. Explicitly assigning disadvantages according to immutable characteristics fuels so called "white nationalism", as do blithe dismissals such as yours. You can't have it both ways - either you attempt to hire by merit or you acknowledge that you are motivating self-preserving movements in demographics which perceive discrimination. There's also a certain selection bias among those willing to complain. Generally those with good career prospects are far more likely to keep their heads down rather than risk repercussions for speaking against top down D&I pressure - so the fact that the loudest may not be stellar examples of good soldiering does not imply that this perceived discrimination is not more widespread among otherwise competent personell.