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You're forgetting about the need for closeness and connection. Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high. Crime and murder rates have gone up tremendous

You're forgetting about the need for closeness and connection. Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high. Crime and murder rates have gone up tremendously since the beginning of the pandemic. Saving 30,000 from the flu sounds great, but there are serious impacts from the extreme mask mandates and social distancing and the ones I mentioned are just what are immediately obvious. I imagine when you see the educational impact that many low income students actually end up suffering the most during the pandemic. Many teachers simply don't care if students aren't in school anymore. After all, if a student has the sniffles they'll get quarantined from school for 10+ days with no supplemental education. I find what you're proposing might actually say more about your mental state than that of the people you think are endangering others by existing and wanting human connection.

robmusial 5y ago
Social distancing doesn’t always and automatically mean widespread prolonged lockdown. We are dealing with a novel coronavirus right now which how it spread and testing wasn’t immediately at hand. For something like the flu that we’re quite good at testing for social distancing could be as simple as stop incentivizing employees to come to work sick, and stop incentivizing parents to send their kids to school or daycare sick.
javagram 5y ago
> Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high Suicide rates were rising pre-pandemic as well (IMO, due to social media and the Internet). Suicides overall declined in 2020 in the USA, for instance, so social distancing didn't have the feared effects. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicid... However I agree broadly that the downsides of social distancing are real and unsustainable for more than a short time like a year at most. If we faced a 5 year vaccine development timeline for instance I don't think it would be acceptable to keep people from socializing that long.
DanBC 5y ago
> Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high. No they aren't. Where are you getting your stats from?
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  I should have been more specific. I was referring to youth suicides: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/youth-suicide-attempts-soared-during-pandemic-cdc-report-says-n1270463 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/youth-suicide-attempts-... Data is from the CDC. I also ask you to look into suicide rates in other countries, not just the US.

robmusial 5y ago

Social distancing doesn’t always and automatically mean widespread prolonged lockdown. We are dealing with a novel coronavirus right now which how it spread and testing wasn’t immediately at hand. For something like the flu that we’re quite good at testing for social distancing could be as simple as stop incentivizing employees to come to work sick, and stop incentivizing parents to send their kids to school or daycare sick.

javagram 5y ago

> Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high Suicide rates were rising pre-pandemic as well (IMO, due to social media and the Internet). Suicides overall declined in 2020 in the USA, for instance, so social distancing didn't have the feared effects. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicid... However I agree broadly that the downsides of social distancing are real and unsustainable for more than a short time like a year at most. If we faced a 5 year vaccine development timeline for instance I don't think it would be acceptable to keep people from socializing that long.

DanBC 5y ago

> Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high. No they aren't. Where are you getting your stats from?

encryptluks2 5y ago
I should have been more specific. I was referring to youth suicides: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/youth-suicide-attempts-soared-during-pandemic-cdc-report-says-n1270463 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/youth-suicide-attempts-... Data is from the CDC. I also ask you to look into suicide rates in other countries, not just the US.