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Migrate away from commercial database products to commercial cloud products. Why give away your money when you can give away your data too?

by travoc 5y ago

jaytaylor 5y ago
That's a salient point. At the same time, the engineering and domain knowledge expertise required to pull this off is undeniably impressive. This takes the ORM "compatibility promise" into new territory, maybe even a new stratosphere. Imagine if someone (or company) starts a comparable open-source translation extension layer targeting Postgres as the backend. That would be interesting! Maybe start with the easier case of SQLite->Pg.
- my123 5y ago
  > Imagine if someone (or company) starts a comparable open-source translation extension layer targeting Postgres as the backend That's what Babelfish is.
- rad_gruchalski 5y ago
  I wonder if orafce faced same type of comments after early releases.
filomeno 5y ago
Nobody forces you to. The software is available under the Apache 2.0 license. https://babelfishpg.org/blog/releases/2021/10/babelfish-launch/ https://babelfishpg.org/blog/releases/2021/10/babelfish-laun...
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blahyawnblah 5y ago
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- jayd16 5y ago
  Presumably the more realistic problem is having your data/business held for ransom by price hikes, not that AWS would jeopardize its reputation just to peek at your data.
  - travoc 5y ago
    Did you know that Amazon is being sued for using client data to compete against them right now?
    - _9rq6 5y ago
      Not from the databases they host. seller data is different. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-uses-seller-data-copy-products-alleges-house-antitrust-report-2020-10?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-uses-seller-data-c... If it is something else, Please post a link
rad_gruchalski 5y ago
Patches for postgres and extensions are available on GitHub. Anyone can build their own version of postgres with babelfish. It’s all licensed under Apache 2.0.

Migrate away from commercial database products to commercial cloud products. Why give away your money when you can give away your data too?

by travoc 5y ago

Migrate away from commercial database products to commercial cloud products. Why give away your money when you can give away your data too?

jaytaylor 5y ago

That's a salient point. At the same time, the engineering and domain knowledge expertise required to pull this off is undeniably impressive. This takes the ORM "compatibility promise" into new territory, maybe even a new stratosphere. Imagine if someone (or company) starts a comparable open-source translation extension layer targeting Postgres as the backend. That would be interesting! Maybe start with the easier case of SQLite->Pg.

my123 5y ago
> Imagine if someone (or company) starts a comparable open-source translation extension layer targeting Postgres as the backend That's what Babelfish is.
rad_gruchalski 5y ago
I wonder if orafce faced same type of comments after early releases.

filomeno 5y ago

Nobody forces you to. The software is available under the Apache 2.0 license. https://babelfishpg.org/blog/releases/2021/10/babelfish-launch/ https://babelfishpg.org/blog/releases/2021/10/babelfish-laun...

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blahyawnblah 5y ago

encrypt at rest

jayd16 5y ago
Presumably the more realistic problem is having your data/business held for ransom by price hikes, not that AWS would jeopardize its reputation just to peek at your data.
- travoc 5y ago
  Did you know that Amazon is being sued for using client data to compete against them right now?
  - _9rq6 5y ago
    Not from the databases they host. seller data is different. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-uses-seller-data-copy-products-alleges-house-antitrust-report-2020-10?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-uses-seller-data-c... If it is something else, Please post a link

rad_gruchalski 5y ago

Patches for postgres and extensions are available on GitHub. Anyone can build their own version of postgres with babelfish. It’s all licensed under Apache 2.0.