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This seems easy to solve given Apple's rejection of PWA support in Safari, just add a feature that doesn't matter much, like an (opt-in!) notification on update

This seems easy to solve given Apple's rejection of PWA support in Safari, just add a feature that doesn't matter much, like an (opt-in!) notification on updates. Safari (and therefore all browsers) on iOS don't support notifications, so you're doing something you couldn't do from the website. https://caniuse.com/?search=notifications https://caniuse.com/?search=notifications

aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
Ummm… yeah, no. The AppStore review operates on a spirit-of-the-law basis, instead of the letter-of-the-law.
dmitriid 5y ago
> This seems easy to solve given Apple's rejection of PWA support in Safari There's no such thing as PWA or PWA support. It's several dozen different standards of varying quality and usefulness. And people randomly chose arbitrary selections of those standards and claim that this selection is a true PWA support. Thank god Safari doesn't allow notifications and it should continue not allowing them.
littlecranky67 5y ago
I can actually understand Apples decision here to not allow push notifications on PWAs and would support it for now. I have two smartphones and am a dual user of iOS and Android. The issue with Android apps is the constant stream of unwanted/advertising notifications. Yes, you can configure them for each app and disable notification categories, but I just don't want to mess with that for each and every app (and their Updates which might change categories). Apple's Appstore rules forbid push-notification for marketing/advertising, and I get way less useless notifications by default on iOS. On Android, I often get notifications from major Appmakers in the sort of "We haven't seen you for a while, checkout what you miss in our App!" or "There is a competition in our App, take part and win a free XXX). Yes, you can disable notifications as a whole for an App, but that would also disable those notification that I want to receive and are essential. If you would allow PWAs installed from outside the Appstore to send push-notifications, major 3rd party app makers would abuse that as means to "increase engagement" (their marketing lingo for spam) with their users.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
  God, that sounds awful! Do Android users really put up with this kind of crap?

aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago

Ummm… yeah, no. The AppStore review operates on a spirit-of-the-law basis, instead of the letter-of-the-law.

dmitriid 5y ago

> This seems easy to solve given Apple's rejection of PWA support in Safari There's no such thing as PWA or PWA support. It's several dozen different standards of varying quality and usefulness. And people randomly chose arbitrary selections of those standards and claim that this selection is a true PWA support. Thank god Safari doesn't allow notifications and it should continue not allowing them.

littlecranky67 5y ago

I can actually understand Apples decision here to not allow push notifications on PWAs and would support it for now. I have two smartphones and am a dual user of iOS and Android. The issue with Android apps is the constant stream of unwanted/advertising notifications. Yes, you can configure them for each app and disable notification categories, but I just don't want to mess with that for each and every app (and their Updates which might change categories). Apple's Appstore rules forbid push-notification for marketing/advertising, and I get way less useless notifications by default on iOS. On Android, I often get notifications from major Appmakers in the sort of "We haven't seen you for a while, checkout what you miss in our App!" or "There is a competition in our App, take part and win a free XXX). Yes, you can disable notifications as a whole for an App, but that would also disable those notification that I want to receive and are essential. If you would allow PWAs installed from outside the Appstore to send push-notifications, major 3rd party app makers would abuse that as means to "increase engagement" (their marketing lingo for spam) with their users.

aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
God, that sounds awful! Do Android users really put up with this kind of crap?