Well that's a convenient set of arguments, lets politely agree to disagree. Privacy is #1 selling point for Apple phones for geeks, it for sure ain't some medi

Well that's a convenient set of arguments, lets politely agree to disagree. Privacy is #1 selling point for Apple phones for geeks, it for sure ain't some mediocre hardware catching what chinese manufacturers released 1-2 generations before, nor sheepish bragging mentality that is so popular in poorer parts of the world. They broke privacy. It ain't some super bendy term that you can argue about and twist to suit your current needs, in similar vein as ie truth. Lets break it down - private means mine and mine only, 0 other access, here, there, everywhere. Anything else is not private, whatever 'noble' cause you wrap it in that keeps shifting with time, location, political regime etc.. They claimed they had it. Many honestly believed them. They openly kicked it out and failed at it so badly they didn't even grok it could be an issue. Then whole clusterfuck happened as we all saw from first row. Apple doesn't have privacy, period. It can claim to have some other features, and with some they are correct. And that's about it.