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The masks thing has been talked over a bunch on HN so I won’t revisit that argument but it’s a dead end: it was a potentially incorrect measure to take but also

The masks thing has been talked over a bunch on HN so I won’t revisit that argument but it’s a dead end: it was a potentially incorrect measure to take but also not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. Percentage of people/herd immunity: they straight up did not lie. They said that based on what we know of similar diseases the guess would be 75-95% of the population need to be vaccinated. Everyone immediately latched onto the 75% mark and also this was in 2020 when we knew comparatively approximately nothing about COVID. This is like saying “based on our knowledge of Toyota Corollas, a Ferrari will do 0-60 in at most 5 seconds”. Technically true, but not backed by studies until studies are able to be completed. Your last sentence sounds like you formed an opinion before doing the research so I see no point in addressing it. Sounds like there is no study you can point to that was compromised?

ghoward 5y ago
> it was a potentially incorrect measure to take but also not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. Any lie from an expert is a big deal. We are supposed to "trust experts", right? Any lie makes them lose trust. > Percentage of people/herd immunity: they straight up did not lie. Fauci did. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covi... > Sounds like there is no study you can point to that was compromised? Not one from the CDC directly, but https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/health/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/health/coronavirus-hydrox... . However, the CDC is definitely fudging the numbers on deaths, per https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-I... : > COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.

ghoward 5y ago

> it was a potentially incorrect measure to take but also not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. Any lie from an expert is a big deal. We are supposed to "trust experts", right? Any lie makes them lose trust. > Percentage of people/herd immunity: they straight up did not lie. Fauci did. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covi... > Sounds like there is no study you can point to that was compromised? Not one from the CDC directly, but https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/health/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/health/coronavirus-hydrox... . However, the CDC is definitely fudging the numbers on deaths, per https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-I... : > COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.