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You are not a student at this school. Where I went to school we got lots of strong opinions from outsiders. But some of the "worst" dorms were the most popular

You are not a student at this school. Where I went to school we got lots of strong opinions from outsiders. But some of the "worst" dorms were the most popular for reasons that are not always obvious to outsiders. And yes, some students like to live close to others. UCSB may be doing double and triple bunking in rooms (my school did 4 to a room for a while, when the "crappy" new space opened it was first choice in the housing lottery). Folks talking about sharing a bathroom meaning that people will be pooping out of windows are idiots who either went to some elite school where you are waited on by butlers. It would not be uncommon for a hall with 15 rooms to have two bathrooms. Other things that offended folks that students gave no craps about. We had some coed bathrooms, was never an issue. I'm sure now they are called gender neutral.

tsimionescu 5y ago
What does any of this have to do with gun safety?
- slownews45 5y ago
  What does a building with 10 emergency exists, lots of individually lockable suites and rooms have to do with guns? Santa Barbara has strict anti-gun laws already. CA has a lot of anti-gun laws already. The UCSB system has anti gun laws already. Santa Barbara issues something like 50 permits a DECADE for concealed carry. It's a "may" issue jurisdiction, and they don't issue. And if metal detectors are implemented, I'm not sure students will care. They already exist for large sporting events and other areas of concern, so if there was a concern you'd want fewer main entrances so you could staff them. Bigger issue is normally non-students in student housing, so security can be good in terms of setup. This means the newer buildings often do things like keycard access to suites only for suite holders, and some even do keycards for your room separate from suite, again, all logged and tracked. I visited a friend at a school where I had to sign in my car with a guard, had to be escorted to their room by a front desk staffer etc. That's extreme - no way UC is going that (this was a small elite place). The major student issues in terms of safety are stranger access to dorms / bathrooms at night, theft issues (bikes / bags etc), and nuisance issues (noise, weed smoke, parties etc).
  - saagarjha 5y ago
    I went to UCSB. Most students will not discount the idea of something like this happening again in these dorms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings

tsimionescu 5y ago

What does any of this have to do with gun safety?

slownews45 5y ago
What does a building with 10 emergency exists, lots of individually lockable suites and rooms have to do with guns? Santa Barbara has strict anti-gun laws already. CA has a lot of anti-gun laws already. The UCSB system has anti gun laws already. Santa Barbara issues something like 50 permits a DECADE for concealed carry. It's a "may" issue jurisdiction, and they don't issue. And if metal detectors are implemented, I'm not sure students will care. They already exist for large sporting events and other areas of concern, so if there was a concern you'd want fewer main entrances so you could staff them. Bigger issue is normally non-students in student housing, so security can be good in terms of setup. This means the newer buildings often do things like keycard access to suites only for suite holders, and some even do keycards for your room separate from suite, again, all logged and tracked. I visited a friend at a school where I had to sign in my car with a guard, had to be escorted to their room by a front desk staffer etc. That's extreme - no way UC is going that (this was a small elite place). The major student issues in terms of safety are stranger access to dorms / bathrooms at night, theft issues (bikes / bags etc), and nuisance issues (noise, weed smoke, parties etc).
- saagarjha 5y ago
  I went to UCSB. Most students will not discount the idea of something like this happening again in these dorms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings