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> betting against a company with such a huge war chest is like trying to catch a falling knife. Indeed. My biggest fear is that succeed. I happen to prefer PC
by zamalek 5y ago
> betting against a company with such a huge war chest is like trying to catch a falling knife.
Indeed. My biggest fear is that succeed.
I happen to prefer PCs (and there is no reason to argue for or against that). Apple has been incredibly successful at capturing market share and their devices are now mandatory at my new job. I might not like it, but it's not the end of the world: Apple behaves ethically.
Now imagine your [otherwise] dream job demands that you strap a Quest on and feed Zuck's data fetish.
- monkeybutton 5y agoHere's hoping Microsoft's HoloLense takes off in the corporate world.
- quantum_magpie 5y agoUgh. Here's hoping that all crapware VR crashes, burns, and takes down their host companies.
- gear54rus 5y agoApple behaves ethically with those file scanners on your devices? Iphone parts that show errors when replaced with the same parts from another phone? Lobbying against the right to repair? Blocking access to 3rd party app stores? lol. It's just marketing, nothing more.
- jmknoll 5y agoApple has certainly displayed some anti-consumer behavior. No one will argue with that. But not all sins are equal. Let's not say that blocking access to repair stores is the same thing as knowingly aiding and abetting genocide.
- random314 5y agoSharing imessages with CCP that is ethnically cleansing uyghurs should certainly count as aiding and abetting genocide.
- parthdesai 5y agoGood thing you bring that up: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-uighur/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-u...
- threeseed 5y agoa) The CSAM scanning on your phone only happens if you specify that you want your photos to be uploaded to iCloud Photo Library. And if doesn't happen client-side then it simply happens server-side with less privacy and security. b) iPhone parts showing errors issues was a bug that was already fixed and applied to TouchID security validation. If it's something new then it's almost guarenteed that this is a good thing i.e. you're trying to tamper/remove the biometrics components. c) Apple's customers don't want 3rd party App Stores. It's not a computer to them but an appliance like a microwave. They want security, privacy, moderation, convenience and alternate stores trade those away for features e.g. flexibility, price that no one really wants.
- vineyardmike 5y ago1) Lets not have client side scanning apologists here. They are setting a terrible precedent. Even if apple does it right, the copy cats won't and that'll be terrible for everyone. 2) Apple customer support has a history of being deceitful. In the US it is illegal for them to reject jailbroken devices from warranty and I've been told by apple they will void your warranty on their internal services if you bring them a device. 3) Not all customers want a 3p App Store. Some do. iPhones are not microwaves, they are computers. > They want security, privacy, moderation, convenience Like a microwave? Wtf. Also, all these things can come through 3p app stores. Security is provided by the OS not App Store. Privacy is by app. Moderation apple still doesn't do right. Convenience is IAP that apps will actually use.
- LordDragonfang 5y ago>Lets not have client side scanning apologists here. It's not scanning on the client side, it's hashing. People on this site should really understand the difference. The alternative, as many have pointed out, is them uploading your whole image to be scanned server side. Smart money is that this is a move in front of Apple encrypting your whole icloud backup, and they have to do something if they don't want the legal, political, and social liability of being a free encrypted cloud storage for CSAM. There's lots of reasons to criticise Apple, this isn't one.
- joeberon 5y agoIt's the difference between eating an okay meal and literally stabbing yourself in the face with a knife
- oarabbus_ 5y agoApple has knowingly used child labor for a few years in China, and are alleged to do the same thing in Congo. This is not just them, but the people who hate on FB for being unethical while lauding Apple for being ethical... the cognitive dissonance or willful ignorance is astounding. https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-knowingly-used-child-labor-supplier-3-years-cut-costs-2020-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-knowingly-used-child-l... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-mining-children-trfn/tesla-apple-among-firms-accused-of-aiding-child-labor-in-congo-idUSKBN1YK24F https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-mining-children-trfn/...
- nathias 5y agoif you can believe Apple behaves ethically you can convince yourself Meta is ethical too if you try
- wlesieutre 5y agoDon't forget to put on your Meta Smartwatch with front-facing camera edit: for reference https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-28/leaked-photo-shows-meta-s-planned-competitor-to-apple-watch https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-28/leaked-ph...
- vineyardmike 5y ago> Now imagine your [otherwise] dream job demands that you strap a Quest on and feed Zuck's data fetish. Its very likely that a commercial Oculus device won't collect data (what company approves that?), so it might actually give FB a path to money that is free of data+ads.
- lostlogin 5y ago> what company approves that? Kissing by the number that have FB accounts, most?
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- ycoculushaver 5y agoHaha I work for a company that literally bought and distributed Quest 2s for an event and I had to create a Facebook account for it.. not much imagining needed for me! Oh and it was my otherwise dream job at the time :) Oh yeah, and it's a YC company.
- soperj 5y ago>Apple behaves ethically There was that whole no poaching thing.