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Got excited at first but it's missing push notifications which is 90% of the reason I even want an app

by danr4 5y ago

marvindanig 5y ago
Try Red Goose? https://goose.red https://goose.red We provide push notifications along with a few more important things that you'd need to wrap your web-app with. Full disclosure: I'm its founder and you can reach me on marvin@goose.red.
judah 5y ago
Thanks for the feedback. We're looking to add that in a follow-up release. In the meantime, if you really need it, have a look at this project: https://github.com/khmyznikov/ios-pwa-wrap https://github.com/khmyznikov/ios-pwa-wrap It's a iOS PWA template that uses push notifications via Firebase.
ghaff 5y ago
Curious. What are all these things you want to get notified about? I pretty much have all notifications turned off besides messaging, phone, and alarm.
- danr4 5y ago
  I'm a developer of a web app where users interact with each other. Notifying users on in-app activity is the absolute most important thing for them and for us.
sergiotapia 5y ago
And PWAs will never get that support because it's in Google and Apples best interest to block it. Some sad shit
- Someone1234 5y ago
  I'm confused, what are Google blocking? iOS famously lacks push notification browser support, but Android's browser and third party browsers on the platform all support it on Android (and have since forever).
- Drew_ 5y ago
  Google already supports Web Push in Chrome. Mozilla in Firefox as well. Web Push is only blocked in Safari.
- judah 5y ago
  PWABuilder already has a "publish to Google Play" feature: https://blog.pwabuilder.com/posts/microsoft-and-google-team-up-to-make-pwas-better-in-the-play-store/ https://blog.pwabuilder.com/posts/microsoft-and-google-team-... We work with Google -- and even sync with them monthly -- on this platform. They are very cooperative and helpful. And, PWAs published to Google Play can do push notifications and anything else PWAs normally do, using just standards-based code.
- simonbarker87 5y ago
  I’ve released a PWA with Capacitor in both app stores with push notifications.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  Google implemented PWA support years ago into both Android and Chrome, including web push notifications. Apple is the only one that purposely doesn't implement necessary features for PWAs like web push notifications. Google and Mozilla have supported the web push API for going on 6 to 7+ years now.
  - scarface74 5y ago
    And Google decided to actually make real native apps for iOS. https://9to5google.com/2021/10/10/google-ios-apps-native/ https://9to5google.com/2021/10/10/google-ios-apps-native/ Facebook realized years ago that true native apps and not a web wrapper was a better user experience.
    - ccouzens 5y ago
      Facebook's mobile website works well enough. They keep pushing me to use their lite app, but I suspect it's not in my benefit. The web app is a bit buggy (only the first few photos load on an image post), but there's no reason to think that couldn't be fixed if they tried. Given the choice, I'd use Facebook messenger in my phone's web browser but they block it. I don't agree that a native app is a better experience, as it gives less control to me the user. Maybe it's a better experience for product managers who want to increase my engagement and collect as much information on me as possible.
- handrous 5y ago
  In my interest, too. Pay attention to non-geeks using this "feature" and it's clear that web push is the 3rd party toolbar[0] of the modern web. Crap they enable by accident, then don't know how to get rid of. [0] Ask someone who worked with computers in the late 90s and 2000s if you don't get the reference.
yesimahuman 5y ago
I would recommend checking out Capacitor which can bring your web app/PWA to mobile and has full push support for iOS and Android: https://capacitorjs.com/docs/guides/push-notifications-firebase https://capacitorjs.com/docs/guides/push-notifications-fireb...
- danr4 5y ago
  ooh I didn't know they do that. How easy is it to wrap and existing PWA?
  - yesimahuman 5y ago
    It's quite easy but it depends how you want to do it. Would you want to take an existing PWA codebase and deploy it in the best possible way to mobile, or do you want to wrap the existing externally hosted PWA? Both are possible but the former will be more likely to be accepted into the app stores. Capacitor can be added to an existing web app codebase and acts as a library with cross-platform APIs for functionality like Camera/etc and that would be compiled/linked into your app like any JS library. But it can also be used to wrap an externally hosted app by changing the server.url config value https://capacitorjs.com/docs/config https://capacitorjs.com/docs/config

Got excited at first but it's missing push notifications which is 90% of the reason I even want an app

by danr4 5y ago

Got excited at first but it's missing push notifications which is 90% of the reason I even want an app

Try Red Goose? https://goose.red https://goose.red We provide push notifications along with a few more important things that you'd need to wrap your web-app with. Full disclosure: I'm its founder and you can reach me on marvin@goose.red.

judah 5y ago

Thanks for the feedback. We're looking to add that in a follow-up release. In the meantime, if you really need it, have a look at this project: https://github.com/khmyznikov/ios-pwa-wrap https://github.com/khmyznikov/ios-pwa-wrap It's a iOS PWA template that uses push notifications via Firebase.

ghaff 5y ago

Curious. What are all these things you want to get notified about? I pretty much have all notifications turned off besides messaging, phone, and alarm.

danr4 5y ago
I'm a developer of a web app where users interact with each other. Notifying users on in-app activity is the absolute most important thing for them and for us.

sergiotapia 5y ago

And PWAs will never get that support because it's in Google and Apples best interest to block it. Some sad shit

Someone1234 5y ago
I'm confused, what are Google blocking? iOS famously lacks push notification browser support, but Android's browser and third party browsers on the platform all support it on Android (and have since forever).
Drew_ 5y ago
Google already supports Web Push in Chrome. Mozilla in Firefox as well. Web Push is only blocked in Safari.
judah 5y ago
PWABuilder already has a "publish to Google Play" feature: https://blog.pwabuilder.com/posts/microsoft-and-google-team-up-to-make-pwas-better-in-the-play-store/ https://blog.pwabuilder.com/posts/microsoft-and-google-team-... We work with Google -- and even sync with them monthly -- on this platform. They are very cooperative and helpful. And, PWAs published to Google Play can do push notifications and anything else PWAs normally do, using just standards-based code.
simonbarker87 5y ago
I’ve released a PWA with Capacitor in both app stores with push notifications.
heavyset_go 5y ago
Google implemented PWA support years ago into both Android and Chrome, including web push notifications. Apple is the only one that purposely doesn't implement necessary features for PWAs like web push notifications. Google and Mozilla have supported the web push API for going on 6 to 7+ years now.
- scarface74 5y ago
  And Google decided to actually make real native apps for iOS. https://9to5google.com/2021/10/10/google-ios-apps-native/ https://9to5google.com/2021/10/10/google-ios-apps-native/ Facebook realized years ago that true native apps and not a web wrapper was a better user experience.
  - ccouzens 5y ago
    Facebook's mobile website works well enough. They keep pushing me to use their lite app, but I suspect it's not in my benefit. The web app is a bit buggy (only the first few photos load on an image post), but there's no reason to think that couldn't be fixed if they tried. Given the choice, I'd use Facebook messenger in my phone's web browser but they block it. I don't agree that a native app is a better experience, as it gives less control to me the user. Maybe it's a better experience for product managers who want to increase my engagement and collect as much information on me as possible.
handrous 5y ago
In my interest, too. Pay attention to non-geeks using this "feature" and it's clear that web push is the 3rd party toolbar[0] of the modern web. Crap they enable by accident, then don't know how to get rid of. [0] Ask someone who worked with computers in the late 90s and 2000s if you don't get the reference.

yesimahuman 5y ago

I would recommend checking out Capacitor which can bring your web app/PWA to mobile and has full push support for iOS and Android: https://capacitorjs.com/docs/guides/push-notifications-firebase https://capacitorjs.com/docs/guides/push-notifications-fireb...

danr4 5y ago
ooh I didn't know they do that. How easy is it to wrap and existing PWA?
- yesimahuman 5y ago
  It's quite easy but it depends how you want to do it. Would you want to take an existing PWA codebase and deploy it in the best possible way to mobile, or do you want to wrap the existing externally hosted PWA? Both are possible but the former will be more likely to be accepted into the app stores. Capacitor can be added to an existing web app codebase and acts as a library with cross-platform APIs for functionality like Camera/etc and that would be compiled/linked into your app like any JS library. But it can also be used to wrap an externally hosted app by changing the server.url config value https://capacitorjs.com/docs/config https://capacitorjs.com/docs/config