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I don’t understand. Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t? What problems do you foresee?

willmorrison 5y ago
I commented above a few of the issues I see. For example, would Lebron James (or any celebrity or person that has genetics that are profitable) be afraid of giving blood for fear of someone making Lebron 2.0 without his permission?
- HPsquared 5y ago
  Or, literally some kind of false paternity fraud - such a child would come with certain legal rights and privileges.
- klipt 5y ago
  That's not a new problem, in the USA even a man who is raped can be forced to pay child support to his rapist. Obviously these child support laws are in need of reform.
mcculley 5y ago
Once humans (and other animals) can be created without parents being involved, there will be many ethical issues. At what point do they attain human rights? At conception? At "birth" from an artificial womb? What defines "human" in "human rights"? (Can they knock out a few genes and make a sentient creature that is capable of suffering but not human? We have sentient non-humans suffering in factory farms already.) How will we prevent people/corporations/governments/religions from just deciding to create a bunch of people? What does regulation look like in this inevitable future?
- throwaway482423 5y ago
  >At what point do they attain human rights? At conception? At "birth" from an artificial womb? This is hardly a new issue
  - mcculley 5y ago
    The issue is currently limited to pregnant women.
josephcsible 5y ago
> Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t? In and of itself, no. I'm saying there's issues with some particular ways of doing so.
iammisc 5y ago
Personally, I foresee breeding programs for armies to create perfect soldiers. I foresee breeding programs for a permanent slave underclass. How can you not see the problems?
mensetmanusman 5y ago
Governments buying soldiers from birth.

willmorrison 5y ago

I commented above a few of the issues I see. For example, would Lebron James (or any celebrity or person that has genetics that are profitable) be afraid of giving blood for fear of someone making Lebron 2.0 without his permission?

HPsquared 5y ago
Or, literally some kind of false paternity fraud - such a child would come with certain legal rights and privileges.
klipt 5y ago
That's not a new problem, in the USA even a man who is raped can be forced to pay child support to his rapist. Obviously these child support laws are in need of reform.

mcculley 5y ago

Once humans (and other animals) can be created without parents being involved, there will be many ethical issues. At what point do they attain human rights? At conception? At "birth" from an artificial womb? What defines "human" in "human rights"? (Can they knock out a few genes and make a sentient creature that is capable of suffering but not human? We have sentient non-humans suffering in factory farms already.) How will we prevent people/corporations/governments/religions from just deciding to create a bunch of people? What does regulation look like in this inevitable future?

throwaway482423 5y ago
>At what point do they attain human rights? At conception? At "birth" from an artificial womb? This is hardly a new issue
- mcculley 5y ago
  The issue is currently limited to pregnant women.

josephcsible 5y ago

> Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t? In and of itself, no. I'm saying there's issues with some particular ways of doing so.

iammisc 5y ago

Personally, I foresee breeding programs for armies to create perfect soldiers. I foresee breeding programs for a permanent slave underclass. How can you not see the problems?

mensetmanusman 5y ago

Governments buying soldiers from birth.