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Quest 2 isn't successful the way Meta wants it to be. There's been like what, 2 million units sold? Facebook has nearly 2 billion MAU. 2 million is nothing. Le

Quest 2 isn't successful the way Meta wants it to be. There's been like what, 2 million units sold? Facebook has nearly 2 billion MAU. 2 million is nothing. Let's compare to other electronics that are arguably "mainstream": Nintendo Wii - 101 million Nintendo DS - 154 million Sony PS4 - 116 million Apple iPhone 12 - 100 million Apple AirPods - over 100 million in 2021

josefresco 5y ago
Comparing hardware, with a fixed cost of about $300 to a free online service isn't exactly a valid comparison. $600 million from 2 million customers (not including $ spent on games). How much money does FB make from 2 million FB users?
- badlogic 5y ago
  How much money does Facebook make from selling headsets? The answer is <= 0, as they sell at or above cost.
  - vntok 5y ago
    I'm confused. If they sell above cost, surely they make money?
    - badlogic 5y ago
      Ah yes, I meant to write below cost. That's what baby induced insomnia does to an adult brain.
  - jjulius 5y ago
    Are you sure you didn't mean">=0"?.
- endisneigh 5y ago
  Facebook almost certainly gets a higher margin from ads compared to selling hardware. Answering your question is difficult because the kind of people who buy a Quest have more money to spend and therefore advertisers' click-through rate might be different.
- jjulius 5y ago
  >Comparing hardware, with a fixed cost of about $300 to a free online service isn't exactly a valid comparison. Zuckerberg has previously said that he wants Facebook to "effectively transition from people seeing us as primarily being a social media company to being a metaverse company.” So while I definitely see where you're coming from, the intent here seems to be, in the longer term, to transition FB users from mobile/desktop use and into an AR/VR environment in one form or another. With that in mind, it's valid to acknowledge Oculus sales numbers relative to FB MAU numbers.
TigeriusKirk 5y ago
I believe Quest 2 has passed 5 million units.
- jjulius 5y ago
  For a company that wants to "effectively transition from people seeing us as primarily being a social media company to being a metaverse company", 5 million still really pales in comparison to FB's MAU count.

josefresco 5y ago

Comparing hardware, with a fixed cost of about $300 to a free online service isn't exactly a valid comparison. $600 million from 2 million customers (not including $ spent on games). How much money does FB make from 2 million FB users?

badlogic 5y ago
How much money does Facebook make from selling headsets? The answer is <= 0, as they sell at or above cost.
- vntok 5y ago
  I'm confused. If they sell above cost, surely they make money?
  - badlogic 5y ago
    Ah yes, I meant to write below cost. That's what baby induced insomnia does to an adult brain.
- jjulius 5y ago
  Are you sure you didn't mean">=0"?.
endisneigh 5y ago
Facebook almost certainly gets a higher margin from ads compared to selling hardware. Answering your question is difficult because the kind of people who buy a Quest have more money to spend and therefore advertisers' click-through rate might be different.
jjulius 5y ago
>Comparing hardware, with a fixed cost of about $300 to a free online service isn't exactly a valid comparison. Zuckerberg has previously said that he wants Facebook to "effectively transition from people seeing us as primarily being a social media company to being a metaverse company.” So while I definitely see where you're coming from, the intent here seems to be, in the longer term, to transition FB users from mobile/desktop use and into an AR/VR environment in one form or another. With that in mind, it's valid to acknowledge Oculus sales numbers relative to FB MAU numbers.

TigeriusKirk 5y ago

I believe Quest 2 has passed 5 million units.

jjulius 5y ago
For a company that wants to "effectively transition from people seeing us as primarily being a social media company to being a metaverse company", 5 million still really pales in comparison to FB's MAU count.