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Parents have a responsibility to teach, guide, and educate their children to prepare them for adulthood. Today a vast amount of your "life" is online (much mor

Parents have a responsibility to teach, guide, and educate their children to prepare them for adulthood. Today a vast amount of your "life" is online (much more than a decade ago). It only makes sense for parents to "parent" their children online. > "Horrendously invasive" Children do not have a right to privacy from their parents. Privacy (from parents) is a privileged that is earned and can be taken away. If you found your child off {insert worst thing you can think of} would you crack down on their privacy? Most parents would. Parents also have the right to decide for themselves what really is "bad", and then try to raise their child according to those beliefs. Don't confuse privacy from parents as privacy overall--children absolutely have a right to privacy from companies/3rd parties. Simply because the internet doesn't physically harm you in an immediately noticeable way doesn't mean it's not dangerous or that harm isn't being done. It's good for parents to be aware of potential dangers (of which there are plenty) and to help their child navigate them. Also, as other's have pointed out, the internet from decades ago is much different than the internet of today.

jeroenhd 5y ago
> Children do not have a right to privacy from their parents. They do everywhere outside the US, under article 16 of Unicef's convention on rights of the child. Of course this right is not absolute and many will say that the right to a child's safety comes before the right of a child's privacy, but children do inherently have a right to privacy. The convention does not exclude parents from this right for good reason. There are parents who will demand their 17 year old child to hand over their private conversations, search history, you name it, and there are those that give 3 year olds unrestricted access to the internet. Neither extremes are healthy for children, but this "guidance" for the internet can last into children's late teens for certain parents. The US signed the convention but did not ratify it, so you're correct that children don't have this right specifically in America. Legally speaking, the UN convention should ensure the right in all other recognised countries, though.
- camhart 5y ago
  I don't believe article 16 gives a child right to privacy in all places and at all times. I believe a loving parent should be able to rightfully demand that online privacy be limited for the child in some ways with respect to the parent. I failed to point this out, but I was generally referring to online privacy with my comments. Thanks to your comment I've thought this through a bit more and did a little digging/research. > There are parents who will demand their 17 year old child to hand over their private conversations, search history, you name it Under certain circumstance this is justified, even according to unisef and the resources they link to. "Governments, companies and others should support parents with appropriate guidance and tools, including how to respond to and, if needed, report harmful contacts, conduct and content." [1] -> "guidance and tools" links to [2], which explicitly states parents can "Monitor a teen’s social media sites, apps, and browsing history, if you have concerns that cyberbullying may be occurring" as well as "Know your child’s user names and passwords for email and social media" and "Establish rules about appropriate digital behavior, content, and apps". I'd also add that unicef has called out pornography as potentially harmful for children [3], as that's likely a topic many children may debate. And that parents may use parental controls [1] (point #4) to help them make online platforms safe for children. [1] https://www.unicef.org/media/67396/file/COVID-19%20and%20Its%20Implications%20for%20Protecting%20Children%20Online.pdf https://www.unicef.org/media/67396/file/COVID-19%20and%20Its... [2] https://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/digital-awareness-for-parents https://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/digital-awareness... [3] https://www.unicef.org/harmful-content-online https://www.unicef.org/harmful-content-online
Mindwipe 5y ago
> Parents also have the right to decide for themselves what really is "bad", and then try to raise their child according to those beliefs. No, they really don't thankfully.

jeroenhd 5y ago

> Children do not have a right to privacy from their parents. They do everywhere outside the US, under article 16 of Unicef's convention on rights of the child. Of course this right is not absolute and many will say that the right to a child's safety comes before the right of a child's privacy, but children do inherently have a right to privacy. The convention does not exclude parents from this right for good reason. There are parents who will demand their 17 year old child to hand over their private conversations, search history, you name it, and there are those that give 3 year olds unrestricted access to the internet. Neither extremes are healthy for children, but this "guidance" for the internet can last into children's late teens for certain parents. The US signed the convention but did not ratify it, so you're correct that children don't have this right specifically in America. Legally speaking, the UN convention should ensure the right in all other recognised countries, though.

camhart 5y ago
I don't believe article 16 gives a child right to privacy in all places and at all times. I believe a loving parent should be able to rightfully demand that online privacy be limited for the child in some ways with respect to the parent. I failed to point this out, but I was generally referring to online privacy with my comments. Thanks to your comment I've thought this through a bit more and did a little digging/research. > There are parents who will demand their 17 year old child to hand over their private conversations, search history, you name it Under certain circumstance this is justified, even according to unisef and the resources they link to. "Governments, companies and others should support parents with appropriate guidance and tools, including how to respond to and, if needed, report harmful contacts, conduct and content." [1] -> "guidance and tools" links to [2], which explicitly states parents can "Monitor a teen’s social media sites, apps, and browsing history, if you have concerns that cyberbullying may be occurring" as well as "Know your child’s user names and passwords for email and social media" and "Establish rules about appropriate digital behavior, content, and apps". I'd also add that unicef has called out pornography as potentially harmful for children [3], as that's likely a topic many children may debate. And that parents may use parental controls [1] (point #4) to help them make online platforms safe for children. [1] https://www.unicef.org/media/67396/file/COVID-19%20and%20Its%20Implications%20for%20Protecting%20Children%20Online.pdf https://www.unicef.org/media/67396/file/COVID-19%20and%20Its... [2] https://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/digital-awareness-for-parents https://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/digital-awareness... [3] https://www.unicef.org/harmful-content-online https://www.unicef.org/harmful-content-online

Mindwipe 5y ago

> Parents also have the right to decide for themselves what really is "bad", and then try to raise their child according to those beliefs. No, they really don't thankfully.