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How does this make it to the front page, from a likely biased source (offshore-technology.com, I'm sure they don't have a bias!) when all the articles I've post

How does this make it to the front page, from a likely biased source (offshore-technology.com, I'm sure they don't have a bias!) when all the articles I've posted about the lead up to this don't? > He was also disbarred from working in New York in 2019, and has been in home detention since August that same year. This was hitherto unheard of for a lawyer. He was not a flight risk, this was about punishing anyone who would sue large corporate interests. The linked article is much better with salient details: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/28/chevron-lawyer-steven-donziger-ecuador-house-arrest https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/28/chevron-lawy... > In one of the stranger episodes in this saga, Chevron relocated Alberto Guerra, an Ecuadorian judge, and his family to the US, paid for his health insurance and a car while meeting with him more than 50 times before he provided testimony that Donziger discussed the bribe with him at a Quito restaurant. Guerra has since admitted that his testimony was exaggerated in parts, untrue in others. > Donziger was made liable for millions of dollars in Chevron’s legal costs and the company was granted seizure of his laptop and cellphone. When he appealed this, claiming the devices contained sensitive client information, the judge, Lewis Kaplan, hit him with criminal contempt charges, upheld on appeal, that led to his house arrest. Does that sound above board? Not like persecution of someone who was successful in securing a judgement against Chevron? Conflicts of interest somehow abound in such a critical case. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, being a powerful multinational company is a pretty good legal tactic. [EDIT] I posted about this twice before as well, guess it was much more interesting this time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28735982 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28735982 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27162564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27162564

vanattab 5y ago
In case anyone here is actually interested in trying to understand the situation, here is the full option from the RICO case in 2014. https://www.theamazonpost.com/wp-content/uploads/Chevron-Ecuador-Opinion-3.4.14.pdf https://www.theamazonpost.com/wp-content/uploads/Chevron-Ecu...
_huayra_ 5y ago
Yeah this is straight up propaganda. Anyone who goes to the homepage for this site can see that it's clearly not aligned with the truth, as a pro-fossil fuels propaganda journal. It's shocking how many other comments in this HN thread will just believe anything they read in this piece...
- grayhatter 5y ago
  > just like my older dumber relatives when they see something about cRiTIcAl rACe ThEOry on faux news. Why ruin a perfectly fine comment with some us vs them toxicity?
- sweetheart 5y ago
  This is gonna be a great comment for you to rediscover when you're older, as it will age like milk.
- croon 5y ago
  I don't necessarily disagree with your second point, but it adds nothing to the topic, and risks clouding the first point.
temp12345678 5y ago
Chevron Board of Directors: Michael K. (Mike) Wirth Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer Ronald D. Sugar Lead Director Retired Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Northrop Grumman Corporation Wanda M. Austin Retired President and Chief Executive Officer, The Aerospace Corporation John B. Frank Vice Chairman, Oaktree Capital Group, LLC Alice P. Gast President, Imperial College London Enrique Hernandez, Jr. Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Inter-Con Security Systems, Inc. Marillyn A. Hewson Retired Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Lockheed Martin Corporation Jon M. Huntsman Jr. Vice Chair Policy, Ford Motor Company Charles W. Moorman Senior advisor to Amtrak and Retired Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Norfolk Southern Corporation Dambisa F. Moyo Co-principal, Versaca Investments Debra Reed-Klages Retired Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President, Sempra Energy D. James Umpleby III Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Caterpillar Inc. learn more about committee memberships corporate officers Chevron executive committee members Michael K. (Mike) Wirth Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer Paul R. Antebi Paul R. Antebi Vice President and General Tax Counsel Eimear P. Bonner* Vice President, Chief Technology Officer Pierre R. Breber* Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Mary A. Francis Corporate Secretary and Chief Governance Officer Joseph C. Geagea* Executive Vice President Jeff B. Gustavson Vice-President, Lower Carbon Energies David A. Inchausti Vice President and Controller James W. Johnson* Executive Vice President, Upstream Navin K. Mahajan Navin K. Mahajan Vice President and Treasurer Rhonda J. Morris* Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer Mark A. Nelson* Executive Vice President, Downstream & Chemicals Bruce L. Niemeyer Vice President, Strategy & Sustainability Colin E. Parfitt Colin Parfitt* Vice President, Midstream R. Hewitt Pate* Vice President and General Counsel J. David Payne Vice President, Health, Safety and Environment Jay R. Pryor Vice President, Business Development Albert (Al) Williams Vice President, Corporate Affairs
bloke_zero 5y ago
Getting on the front page is hit and miss - this was interesting yesterday: https://bengtan.com/blog/open-secrets-hacker-news/ https://bengtan.com/blog/open-secrets-hacker-news/ For what it's worth I didn't read the article and come away thinking well of Chevron. I'm sure it's biased, but I read it and was shocked by his treatment, came here to read more.
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makomk 5y ago
The Guardian article is just as much propaganda - it twists the details of the case to fit their long-running narrative about big fossil fuel companies. For example, this part makes it look like the claims it mentions are just something that Chevron likely made up and the US courts believed for no reason: "Chevron claiming that his team ghostwrote what should have been an independent assessment and offered a $500,000 bribe to sway the judgment. Donziger denied any wrongdoing and the Ecuador supreme court later affirmed the original ruling, but Chevron has refused to pay the $9.5bn in damages". In reality, there's a whole papertrail from his team that was obtained in discovery where they carry out the process of getting an expert appointed by the Ecaudorian court who'll go along with this, ghostwriting his supposedly independent assessment, and getting it falsely presented as the expert's work, whilst talking about exactly what they're doing and why, and the US court rulings cite that extensively as their evidence.

vanattab 5y ago

In case anyone here is actually interested in trying to understand the situation, here is the full option from the RICO case in 2014. https://www.theamazonpost.com/wp-content/uploads/Chevron-Ecuador-Opinion-3.4.14.pdf https://www.theamazonpost.com/wp-content/uploads/Chevron-Ecu...

_huayra_ 5y ago

Yeah this is straight up propaganda. Anyone who goes to the homepage for this site can see that it's clearly not aligned with the truth, as a pro-fossil fuels propaganda journal. It's shocking how many other comments in this HN thread will just believe anything they read in this piece...

grayhatter 5y ago
> just like my older dumber relatives when they see something about cRiTIcAl rACe ThEOry on faux news. Why ruin a perfectly fine comment with some us vs them toxicity?
sweetheart 5y ago
This is gonna be a great comment for you to rediscover when you're older, as it will age like milk.
croon 5y ago
I don't necessarily disagree with your second point, but it adds nothing to the topic, and risks clouding the first point.

temp12345678 5y ago

Chevron Board of Directors: Michael K. (Mike) Wirth Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer Ronald D. Sugar Lead Director Retired Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Northrop Grumman Corporation Wanda M. Austin Retired President and Chief Executive Officer, The Aerospace Corporation John B. Frank Vice Chairman, Oaktree Capital Group, LLC Alice P. Gast President, Imperial College London Enrique Hernandez, Jr. Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Inter-Con Security Systems, Inc. Marillyn A. Hewson Retired Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Lockheed Martin Corporation Jon M. Huntsman Jr. Vice Chair Policy, Ford Motor Company Charles W. Moorman Senior advisor to Amtrak and Retired Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Norfolk Southern Corporation Dambisa F. Moyo Co-principal, Versaca Investments Debra Reed-Klages Retired Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President, Sempra Energy D. James Umpleby III Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Caterpillar Inc. learn more about committee memberships corporate officers Chevron executive committee members Michael K. (Mike) Wirth Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer Paul R. Antebi Paul R. Antebi Vice President and General Tax Counsel Eimear P. Bonner* Vice President, Chief Technology Officer Pierre R. Breber* Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Mary A. Francis Corporate Secretary and Chief Governance Officer Joseph C. Geagea* Executive Vice President Jeff B. Gustavson Vice-President, Lower Carbon Energies David A. Inchausti Vice President and Controller James W. Johnson* Executive Vice President, Upstream Navin K. Mahajan Navin K. Mahajan Vice President and Treasurer Rhonda J. Morris* Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer Mark A. Nelson* Executive Vice President, Downstream & Chemicals Bruce L. Niemeyer Vice President, Strategy & Sustainability Colin E. Parfitt Colin Parfitt* Vice President, Midstream R. Hewitt Pate* Vice President and General Counsel J. David Payne Vice President, Health, Safety and Environment Jay R. Pryor Vice President, Business Development Albert (Al) Williams Vice President, Corporate Affairs

bloke_zero 5y ago

Getting on the front page is hit and miss - this was interesting yesterday: https://bengtan.com/blog/open-secrets-hacker-news/ https://bengtan.com/blog/open-secrets-hacker-news/ For what it's worth I didn't read the article and come away thinking well of Chevron. I'm sure it's biased, but I read it and was shocked by his treatment, came here to read more.

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makomk 5y ago

The Guardian article is just as much propaganda - it twists the details of the case to fit their long-running narrative about big fossil fuel companies. For example, this part makes it look like the claims it mentions are just something that Chevron likely made up and the US courts believed for no reason: "Chevron claiming that his team ghostwrote what should have been an independent assessment and offered a $500,000 bribe to sway the judgment. Donziger denied any wrongdoing and the Ecuador supreme court later affirmed the original ruling, but Chevron has refused to pay the $9.5bn in damages". In reality, there's a whole papertrail from his team that was obtained in discovery where they carry out the process of getting an expert appointed by the Ecaudorian court who'll go along with this, ghostwriting his supposedly independent assessment, and getting it falsely presented as the expert's work, whilst talking about exactly what they're doing and why, and the US court rulings cite that extensively as their evidence.