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If you just get a bum shower as used in many East-Asian countries, you can get away with very little paper towel use and don’t have to clean towels as well. An

by wsc981 5y ago

If you just get a bum shower as used in many East-Asian countries, you can get away with very little paper towel use and don’t have to clean towels as well. And these bum showers can be bought on Amazon quite cheaply and shouldn’t be too difficult to install on any toilet. You’d also be much cleaner I think. This is just one example of such a shower found on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B086W1YZSH/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3GLIMJW6APPOCp13NParams https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B086W1YZSH/ref=sspa_mw_detail...

EdwardDiego 5y ago
Sweet, so I'd just need to pay a plumber to install that - if my water pressure was sufficient to run it (it isn't), as I'm not seeing a pump. I get your point, but yeah, differing circumstances.
dzhiurgis 5y ago
I’ve got japanese one and drying function just doesn’t cut it. In the end i use more toilet paper but experience is better. Could use cloth ones but toddler would destroy those.
- wsc981 5y ago
  > I’ve got japanese one and drying function just doesn’t cut it. In the end i use more toilet paper but experience is better. Could use cloth ones but toddler would destroy those. Might depend how dry you want your bottom to be. I live in Thailand, so we got bum guns everywhere of similar style as the linked Amazon product (no drying function). I usually just use 2-4 sheets to "dry" my behind. If it's still a little bit wet, I don't mind, as my behind will get dry after a few minutes with pants on anyways (perhaps because I live in a hot country). At least I am 100% sure my behind is clean.
  - tikkabhuna 5y ago
    After talking extensively about the benefits of bum guns with my friends when we were in Asia, the hot vs cold country is a big differentiator. We loved them when we were out there, feels so much cleaner. Its also quite refreshing. Back in the UK though you during the winter the water will be extremely cold and you really don't want to be damp down there.
    - tekromancr 5y ago
      The one I have I run a hot and cold line into it for warm water; then I just sit for a minute or two to air dry. I don't live in a particularly hot or dry region, either.
    - nicoburns 5y ago
      I wonder if you could get one with warm water. And why not use a towel to dry off afterwards? Many people keep one in the bathroom for showering anyway.
      - rhacker 5y ago
        I'm picturing the towel people use to dry there hands suddenly used ALSO to dry butts.
        jakub_g 5y ago
        The problem is mainly with 99% of towels being ultra symmetric (up/down, left/right, front/reverse). When your towel is asymmetric, you can split it into zones for various things :)
    - skhr0680 5y ago
      Japanese washlets use heated water
chrischen 5y ago
I have owned both the cheap cold water amazon ones and TOTOs. Highly recommend either. If you don’t mind cold water the cheap amazon ones work really well.
macksd 5y ago
But then we're back to people needing to purchase new items to accommodate sudden changes in lifestyle where it just didn't make any sense since the last major advance in technology / the last pandemic. Sure, we know we need to avoid disposable items right now, but as disposable items go paper products are pretty dang recyclable or compostable. Whereas at other times and places conserving water is far more critical.

by wsc981 5y ago

EdwardDiego 5y ago

Sweet, so I'd just need to pay a plumber to install that - if my water pressure was sufficient to run it (it isn't), as I'm not seeing a pump. I get your point, but yeah, differing circumstances.

dzhiurgis 5y ago

I’ve got japanese one and drying function just doesn’t cut it. In the end i use more toilet paper but experience is better. Could use cloth ones but toddler would destroy those.

wsc981 5y ago
> I’ve got japanese one and drying function just doesn’t cut it. In the end i use more toilet paper but experience is better. Could use cloth ones but toddler would destroy those. Might depend how dry you want your bottom to be. I live in Thailand, so we got bum guns everywhere of similar style as the linked Amazon product (no drying function). I usually just use 2-4 sheets to "dry" my behind. If it's still a little bit wet, I don't mind, as my behind will get dry after a few minutes with pants on anyways (perhaps because I live in a hot country). At least I am 100% sure my behind is clean.
- tikkabhuna 5y ago
  After talking extensively about the benefits of bum guns with my friends when we were in Asia, the hot vs cold country is a big differentiator. We loved them when we were out there, feels so much cleaner. Its also quite refreshing. Back in the UK though you during the winter the water will be extremely cold and you really don't want to be damp down there.
  - tekromancr 5y ago
    The one I have I run a hot and cold line into it for warm water; then I just sit for a minute or two to air dry. I don't live in a particularly hot or dry region, either.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    I wonder if you could get one with warm water. And why not use a towel to dry off afterwards? Many people keep one in the bathroom for showering anyway.
    - rhacker 5y ago
      I'm picturing the towel people use to dry there hands suddenly used ALSO to dry butts.
      - jakub_g 5y ago
        The problem is mainly with 99% of towels being ultra symmetric (up/down, left/right, front/reverse). When your towel is asymmetric, you can split it into zones for various things :)
  - skhr0680 5y ago
    Japanese washlets use heated water

chrischen 5y ago

I have owned both the cheap cold water amazon ones and TOTOs. Highly recommend either. If you don’t mind cold water the cheap amazon ones work really well.

macksd 5y ago

But then we're back to people needing to purchase new items to accommodate sudden changes in lifestyle where it just didn't make any sense since the last major advance in technology / the last pandemic. Sure, we know we need to avoid disposable items right now, but as disposable items go paper products are pretty dang recyclable or compostable. Whereas at other times and places conserving water is far more critical.