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There are so many problems with this post. * Implying a connection between IQ and brain size * Implying IQ is a measure of a person's worth to society * Impl

by Kye 5y ago

There are so many problems with this post. * Implying a connection between IQ and brain size * Implying IQ is a measure of a person's worth to society * Implying people below some magic IQ threshold that renders them unworthy are being "given" resources

lostmsu 5y ago
While the first one is probably really wrong, the other two are clearly fine. Imagine a unique cat with an IQ of human. Would you say it is more worth to society, than any other cat? Probably so. Is there a magic IQ threshold that renders other cats not as worthy as humans to not be given the same kind of resources? In a way yes, as you would draw a line. Intelligence is what makes humans humans.
- leetcrew 5y ago
  I do love cats, but it's not clear to me what an extremely high IQ cat would be useful for. I suspect it would fall somewhere between lethal and unusually annoying.
  - pawelmurias 5y ago
    A smarter cat plots better ways to murder small animals and calculate more comfortable resting places. Having a smart ones he seemed to be doing all the cat things pretty optimally. For social conflicts him being huge enough that other cats and roaming dogs where scared was a lot more useful. A super high IQ could maybe useful for hunting in dangerous places (it would avoid getting hit by cars and other hazards in cities).
  - lostmsu 5y ago
    At the very least they should be able to solve Mechanical Turk tasks.
- Kye 5y ago
  IQ is a culturally-biased measure that, on its best day, is useful for comparing different cohorts and, if it's being used for a good purpose, bridging any gaps. It only measures individual intelligence by a very narrow view of intelligence. There are plenty of high IQ dupes and highly effective people who'd flub an IQ test.
  - Jensson 5y ago
    > highly effective people who'd flub an IQ test. Evidence for this? Effective at what?
Jensson 5y ago
> * Implying a connection between IQ and brain size There is a connection between IQ and brain size. There are a lot of other factors for IQ, but brain size do matter. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7440690/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7440690/

by Kye 5y ago

lostmsu 5y ago

While the first one is probably really wrong, the other two are clearly fine. Imagine a unique cat with an IQ of human. Would you say it is more worth to society, than any other cat? Probably so. Is there a magic IQ threshold that renders other cats not as worthy as humans to not be given the same kind of resources? In a way yes, as you would draw a line. Intelligence is what makes humans humans.

leetcrew 5y ago
I do love cats, but it's not clear to me what an extremely high IQ cat would be useful for. I suspect it would fall somewhere between lethal and unusually annoying.
- pawelmurias 5y ago
  A smarter cat plots better ways to murder small animals and calculate more comfortable resting places. Having a smart ones he seemed to be doing all the cat things pretty optimally. For social conflicts him being huge enough that other cats and roaming dogs where scared was a lot more useful. A super high IQ could maybe useful for hunting in dangerous places (it would avoid getting hit by cars and other hazards in cities).
- lostmsu 5y ago
  At the very least they should be able to solve Mechanical Turk tasks.
Kye 5y ago
IQ is a culturally-biased measure that, on its best day, is useful for comparing different cohorts and, if it's being used for a good purpose, bridging any gaps. It only measures individual intelligence by a very narrow view of intelligence. There are plenty of high IQ dupes and highly effective people who'd flub an IQ test.
- Jensson 5y ago
  > highly effective people who'd flub an IQ test. Evidence for this? Effective at what?

Jensson 5y ago

> * Implying a connection between IQ and brain size There is a connection between IQ and brain size. There are a lot of other factors for IQ, but brain size do matter. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7440690/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7440690/