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Samsung “Smart TV” showing ads o customers
- g42gregory 5y agoDoes using Roku solve the problem? He should be able to watch online TV without Ads then. Am I missing something? Of course, terrible product by Samsung. Hopefully, consumers will vote with their feet.
- jp0d 5y agoI honestly don't know. But it's incredible that they can just agree on behalf of the customers that ads are okay. That's why I never buy Samsung phones either. They're full of bloatware. There should be a setting to disable these ads.
- lotophage 5y agoOne of the reasons TVs are so cheap these days is because they sell advertising and harvest viewing data.
- jp0d 5y agoAre those cheap? Not being sarcastic. I honestly don't know if they're selling those at a loss. I bought my Sony Smart TV 4 years ago. I don't get any ads. It's got some apps like Youtube, Netflix, Stan etc. and that's it. No ads whatsoever.
- squarefoot 5y agoProbably 4 years ago was when they made money just by collecting telemetry on TV usage. Also, 4 years ago was roughly when Windows 10 became widespread surpassing Windows 7, and forced many users to adapt to advertising in non-phone products, therefore manufacturers may have interpreted this as less resistance to ads.
- version_five 5y agoThis is the problem (at least for me). It's the same as so many products (free ones especially), people care more about price than anything else, so businesses are incentivized to produce cheaper, ad supported lineups, and inevitably nobody buys a more expensive, ad-free version. It's the same for airfares (people would rather pay less and be treated like crap than get to be a human for a bit more), shopping (get treated like cattle at walmart but save $.5 on hotdogs or whatever). With ads there is also the idea that the rates you can charge for ads are much lower if you let people pay to opt out, because basically you've pre-segmented for the cheapskates, when advertisers would like to advertise to those with money. Bottom line, we're screwed
- jp0d 5y agoyeah, the last line is quite true. I saw somebody posted a screenshot of their lockscreen with an ad. I've never seen that on my iPhone. But then with the new IOS, I've stopped all kinds of tracking and notifications.
- tshaddox 5y agoWhy should it necessarily have anything to do with customer price sensitivity? No matter what the price point is and what the manufacturer’s margin is, the manufacturer will increase their margin by putting in ads. It doesn’t matter if it’s a $200 TV or a $10,000 TV.
- chuckee 5y ago> people care more about price than anything else, so businesses are incentivized to produce cheaper, ad supported lineups, and inevitably nobody buys a more expensive, ad-free version We know this because "contains large ads and spies on the user, and this cannot be disabled" is advertised as prominently as the price, right?
- dawnerd 5y agoTheir most expensive tv also has ads. That’s such a poor excuse. They do it because they can and because literally every tv company does it consumers don’t have a choice except buying computer monitors or very expensive industrial grade displays.
- Iefthandrule 5y ago> That’s such a poor excuse. More specifically, it is misinformation.
- grepfru_it 5y agoI just spent $3k on a fancy TV and I was presented ads when I powered it on for the first time. I wanted to rage return the product but the sheer size makes it a hassle to take back to the store. I am beyond angry everytime I turn it on (which quickly dissipates when the video turns on and ads go away leaving me in awe of the image quality).
- leephillips 5y agoHow was it able to get the ads from the internet when you powered it on for the first time?
- kiwijamo 5y agoPreloaded from the factory maybe?
- leephillips 5y agoOh, OK. That didn't occur to me, as I thought to be timely ads would need to come from a server.
- lotophage 5y agoI thought that they had been doing this for years. I've heard DNS based block lists (e.g. NextDNS, PiHole) can make them disappear.
- jp0d 5y agoyeah but we can't expect regular people to be able to do that.
- chubot 5y agoYeah I just avoid connecting it to the Internet, and instead use a PC I control to supply the signal.
- nicbou 5y agoI just avoid Samsung products
- acomjean 5y agoOn our Samsung tv every time you turn on the PC it does god knows what for 10-30 seconds (its trying to figure out what the device is and can’t..) we select PCand it works fine but it’s kinda annoying when the much older “dumb” Sony got the pc to tv running in less than 3 seconds… The picture is great And the ROKU stick works well but the ads are very frustrating (we should never have done the internet thing, though my partner does like the YouTube app.. these suggestions might be worth a try)
- lsaferite 5y agoI just waiting for the first TVs out there that use something like Amazon Sidewalk for metrics and/or ads.
- lostlogin 5y agoThis part of the exchange had me laughing, and the initials on the last Samsung post even more so: SamsungUK: Hey, Ross. Congratulations on your new TV. You wouldn't be able to disable the ads we're afraid. ^HA @rsmck: The “HA” really rubs salt in the wound. @SamsungUK: We sign our messages off with our initals, we can assure you we were not laughing at the situation. ^BS
- squarefoot 5y agoWe badly need either alternative firmware for TVs, or a controller such as those cheap LUA63A82 based cards, but with 4K support and the necessary silicon to run an open OS plus Kodi, so that one can swap the one in the TV. Example: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32864199106.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32864199106.html