I appreciate the response and where you all are at. Perhaps a more consumer oriented place may offer better feedback for where you all are in the process? "if

I appreciate the response and where you all are at. Perhaps a more consumer oriented place may offer better feedback for where you all are in the process? "if you could take a look at the product itself. " - I specifically said that: "I don't consider things that don't show pricing." This is not just you - many other products on HN and in the software world - when I see 'contact us for pricing' or anything like that - I run.. I don't waste any more time, I do not bookmark. With so many things to learn (and so much to do) - I can't waste time playing with tools not knowing the cost after I've invested the time to try things out. In this particular area, as I mentioned, if the price was way lower than pinegrow (lifetime ownership, not some 1 year license type scheme) - I would poke around to see if it could be used. Otherwise I have more mature options already and don't need to spend any time with it. I'd also compare it to bluegriffon, and even webflow and figma, wordpress, all the things - but price needs to be a known factor before looking at anything else. And if it turns out to be some sort of monthly / yearly kind of thing, I won't invest the time to use it either. That's just where I am at with most things I use. I also read terms of use before I spend more time delving into how useful a product is - of course if it's buy it, and own it on your desktop - that's not usually a problem.