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> Chloramine is ammonia and chlorine. Both naturally exist in our blood, by the way.

latchkey 5y ago
So increasing our natural amounts is somehow ok? MSG is in our system too, but people who eat food with it added in, often complain of headaches.
- yongjik 5y ago
  > So increasing our natural amounts is somehow ok? It can be OK, or it can be not. That's why we pay scientists to study how safe these things are. > MSG is in our system too, but people who eat food with it added in, often complain of headaches. You could have chosen a better example: MSG is a prime example of people overreacting to what is essentially a tasty placebo. Gram by gram, it's safer than salt.
  - latchkey 5y ago
    I didn't say MSG caused headaches, because we all know that may or may not be true. I've seen the long threads on HN about it. I specifically said they complain of it. In the same way that people complain about IBS with chloramine. At the end of the day though, I see no problem with winning by filtering it out of my water supply. It is a small cost to do so. If the argument is that we should have it in there to keep the water clean on the way to my house, great! I'll filter it out when it gets here and I am more than happy to not drink and especially not vaporize the stuff into my lungs in the shower. The science on it is irrelevant at that point.
- therealdrag0 5y ago
  People complain about a lot of things. That doesn't mean it's true. Maybe it is for some individuals, maybe it's in their head due to stereotyping/priming. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4870486/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4870486/ > From the fact that the results of the human studies are not consistent and it is assumed that most studies using beverages as a vehicle are not properly blinded, we suggest that a causal relationship between MSG and headache has not been proven. In addition, statistically significant differences in the incidence of headache were not observed when MSG was administered with food, except in one case of the female group where the blind integrity was questionable. It would seem premature to conclude that the MSG present in food causes headache.

So increasing our natural amounts is somehow ok? MSG is in our system too, but people who eat food with it added in, often complain of headaches.

yongjik 5y ago
> So increasing our natural amounts is somehow ok? It can be OK, or it can be not. That's why we pay scientists to study how safe these things are. > MSG is in our system too, but people who eat food with it added in, often complain of headaches. You could have chosen a better example: MSG is a prime example of people overreacting to what is essentially a tasty placebo. Gram by gram, it's safer than salt.
- latchkey 5y ago
  I didn't say MSG caused headaches, because we all know that may or may not be true. I've seen the long threads on HN about it. I specifically said they complain of it. In the same way that people complain about IBS with chloramine. At the end of the day though, I see no problem with winning by filtering it out of my water supply. It is a small cost to do so. If the argument is that we should have it in there to keep the water clean on the way to my house, great! I'll filter it out when it gets here and I am more than happy to not drink and especially not vaporize the stuff into my lungs in the shower. The science on it is irrelevant at that point.
therealdrag0 5y ago
People complain about a lot of things. That doesn't mean it's true. Maybe it is for some individuals, maybe it's in their head due to stereotyping/priming. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4870486/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4870486/ > From the fact that the results of the human studies are not consistent and it is assumed that most studies using beverages as a vehicle are not properly blinded, we suggest that a causal relationship between MSG and headache has not been proven. In addition, statistically significant differences in the incidence of headache were not observed when MSG was administered with food, except in one case of the female group where the blind integrity was questionable. It would seem premature to conclude that the MSG present in food causes headache.