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This is an attitude of blaming everyone else but yourself. Obese? Hate Coca-Cola. Lung cancer? Hate Philip Morris. Broke a leg in car crash? Hate BMW. Depresse

This is an attitude of blaming everyone else but yourself. Obese? Hate Coca-Cola. Lung cancer? Hate Philip Morris. Broke a leg in car crash? Hate BMW. Depressed? Hate Facebook. Facebook is just a tool. How you use it, it is your responsibility.

OrderlyTiamat 5y ago
and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Obese? just a lazy fatso. Lung cancer? just a nicotine junkie. etc. I think you are also being too simplistic and neglecting the complex interactions between personal responsibility and the dependency on the environment we as a culture inhabit and create. The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. So those corporations also share partial accountability to the problems they helped create. The product "facebook" being a tool does not preclude the company "facebook" from accountability.
- asteroidbelt 5y ago
  > and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Yes. Because I like to think I'm living among grown ups, not among children where nanny state is needed. > Obese? just a lazy fatso. Not everyone of course (sometimes it is disease), but most obese people are. It is not necessarily bad. Maybe someone decided they are happy being obese, lazy and enjoy sugar in food, that's their choice and their responsibility. > The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. And grownup adults are responsible to recognize these tricks and don't use it when it harms them. Same as with Coca-cola, which also does millions of these tricks affecting consumer behavior. I drink Coke occasionally, and partly because of their ads everywhere, otherwise maybe I'd drink more water. But I know when to stop.
tailspin2019 5y ago
Right. In my case I chose not to use it.

OrderlyTiamat 5y ago

and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Obese? just a lazy fatso. Lung cancer? just a nicotine junkie. etc. I think you are also being too simplistic and neglecting the complex interactions between personal responsibility and the dependency on the environment we as a culture inhabit and create. The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. So those corporations also share partial accountability to the problems they helped create. The product "facebook" being a tool does not preclude the company "facebook" from accountability.

asteroidbelt 5y ago
> and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Yes. Because I like to think I'm living among grown ups, not among children where nanny state is needed. > Obese? just a lazy fatso. Not everyone of course (sometimes it is disease), but most obese people are. It is not necessarily bad. Maybe someone decided they are happy being obese, lazy and enjoy sugar in food, that's their choice and their responsibility. > The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. And grownup adults are responsible to recognize these tricks and don't use it when it harms them. Same as with Coca-cola, which also does millions of these tricks affecting consumer behavior. I drink Coke occasionally, and partly because of their ads everywhere, otherwise maybe I'd drink more water. But I know when to stop.

tailspin2019 5y ago

Right. In my case I chose not to use it.