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My current setup is comcast and att to the net. Internally I've got a DHCP server, with reservations for key equipment (ie do a certificate issuance for these a

My current setup is comcast and att to the net. Internally I've got a DHCP server, with reservations for key equipment (ie do a certificate issuance for these as well) - think proxmox / esxi web interfaces). A few items x.x.x.20 and less static IP (ie, gateway etc). This system works great. Comcast down? No worries, failover to ATT (and visa versa). Everything works through the NAT, failover is seamless. I've spent a bit of time naively trying to get ipv6 to work as smoothly. The way IPv6 addresses are handed out, auto-change, are typed etc. It's just no where near as smooth. We needed IPv5 - I basic extension to address range - that's it. Just add another 0-255 at the beginning or end of things and be done. My other complaint. Desite supposedly having more ipv6 addresses, my ISP WILL NOT give me a static block / prefix etc. In other words, there are enough IPv4 addresses that I can get a block of 5 static IPv4 addresses, but CANNOT pay for a static IPv6 block. What's the limit / issue with giving me a static IP prefix if I'm willing to pay? Seriously... I feel like proponents of Ipv6 have not actually tried to use it at the consumer / prosumer / small business level.

nrabulinski 5y ago
To answer your last point - it’s not IPv6’s fault but ISP’s. In most of the EU it’s trivial to get even more than one static v6 prefix and I wish I didn’t have to deal with NAT or even double NAT as it’s more and more common and instead could just run v6 only.
- slownews45 5y ago
  Awesome! I'm in the US. I gave up on some SIP/VOIP stuff because this (and other protocols) generate lag etc when you are going device > NAT > server > NAT > device route, vs device to device. I just need ONE prefix, but a group of 5 or 8 would be amazing (then you could use the default IPv6 scheme for addressing things). Maybe there is hope, the US lags in some of this a fair bit. There should be enough space it would seem.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> We needed IPv5 Interesting trivia: The experimental Inter Streaming Protocol (ST) used version 5 in the IP header, though it was never officially known as IPv5. Consequently, IPv6 is so numbered to avoid confusion.
preisschild 5y ago
> In other words, there are enough IPv4 addresses that I can get a block of 5 static IPv4 addresses, but CANNOT pay for a static IPv6 block. What's the limit / issue with giving me a static IP prefix if I'm willing to pay? Seriously... > I feel like proponents of Ipv6 have not actually tried to use it at the consumer / prosumer / small business level. Have the same issues. I solely blame my ISP for it, not IPv6. They still think IPv6 is like v4, but with extra addresses. A little bit off topic (but might be an option if you are a really dedicated prosumer guy or a business it sysadmin) but you can get static IPv6 Prefixes from Internet Registries and announce them yourself over BGP. You can buy prefixes from Securebit.ch, for example. My shitty ISP gives me a static v6, but only a single subnet (/64 Prefix). I even tried getting the business package, but even then they would only give me a /60 prefix, which isn't enough for me. Now I have a whole /44, of which i will never even use 5% of.

nrabulinski 5y ago

To answer your last point - it’s not IPv6’s fault but ISP’s. In most of the EU it’s trivial to get even more than one static v6 prefix and I wish I didn’t have to deal with NAT or even double NAT as it’s more and more common and instead could just run v6 only.

slownews45 5y ago
Awesome! I'm in the US. I gave up on some SIP/VOIP stuff because this (and other protocols) generate lag etc when you are going device > NAT > server > NAT > device route, vs device to device. I just need ONE prefix, but a group of 5 or 8 would be amazing (then you could use the default IPv6 scheme for addressing things). Maybe there is hope, the US lags in some of this a fair bit. There should be enough space it would seem.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

> We needed IPv5 Interesting trivia: The experimental Inter Streaming Protocol (ST) used version 5 in the IP header, though it was never officially known as IPv5. Consequently, IPv6 is so numbered to avoid confusion.

preisschild 5y ago

> In other words, there are enough IPv4 addresses that I can get a block of 5 static IPv4 addresses, but CANNOT pay for a static IPv6 block. What's the limit / issue with giving me a static IP prefix if I'm willing to pay? Seriously... > I feel like proponents of Ipv6 have not actually tried to use it at the consumer / prosumer / small business level. Have the same issues. I solely blame my ISP for it, not IPv6. They still think IPv6 is like v4, but with extra addresses. A little bit off topic (but might be an option if you are a really dedicated prosumer guy or a business it sysadmin) but you can get static IPv6 Prefixes from Internet Registries and announce them yourself over BGP. You can buy prefixes from Securebit.ch, for example. My shitty ISP gives me a static v6, but only a single subnet (/64 Prefix). I even tried getting the business package, but even then they would only give me a /60 prefix, which isn't enough for me. Now I have a whole /44, of which i will never even use 5% of.