> the pay is so high because otherwise no-one would go work there This is a meme; every other tech company that's remotely competitive in terms of compensation

> the pay is so high because otherwise no-one would go work there This is a meme; every other tech company that's remotely competitive in terms of compensation pays similarly at the corresponding levels (across the entire ladder). Even if you want to rule out every single social network and ad-tech company (which is also a meme, but for the sake of argument), you've got plenty of uncontroversial options like Netflix, Roblox, Doordash, Dropbox, Square, Snowflake, etc. Also a ton of late-stage pre-IPO startups (Stripe, Instacart, Databricks, etc.)