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> They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30 I'm not a fan of facebook either but this is simply not true. < 30 is the _largest_ proportion of f

> They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30 I'm not a fan of facebook either but this is simply not true. < 30 is the _largest_ proportion of facebook users https://www.statista.com/statistics/376128/facebook-global-user-age-distribution/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/376128/facebook-global-u... Even putting Facebook aside Oculus is dominating the VR space due to cheap hardware, which I would bet is a ton of < 30 people. https://www.statista.com/statistics/265018/proportion-of-directx-versions-on-the-platform-steam/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/265018/proportion-of-dir... My point here is consumers don't _actually_ care about company morals, despite the prevailing narrative.

micromacrofoot 5y ago
This isn't a statement about morals. I agree that no one cares about those. It's a statement that no one thinks "oh cool facebook" about literally anything they say or do. Their greatest successes in terms of social capital over the last decade have involved buying other companies. Maybe I'm in a bubble, but it seems while everyone uses Facebook to some extent... no one likes it.
- edgyquant 5y ago
  Nobody likes anything. People hate Google, Reddit, etc but they still use it because it provides utility.
  - hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
    I like Google and Reddit, a lot. I think a lot of people do. My biggest beef with Google is just that their search engine seems to get worse with every new release, with more pages and pages of ads and a clusterf of rando content until I get to actual search results. But I still really like their service. Similarly, I like Reddit a lot. There are a ton of shitty subreddits but so what, I just don't go there. On the other hand, I hate Facebook. I wish I could find an easy way to stay connected to my existing friend network without the amount of vitriol I feel toward how my feed is organized.
  - giansegato 5y ago
    I like Google, especially for the work they're doing in the Dev space (eg Tensorflow), and I love Apple. People do like companies, to certain extents.
    - mars4rp 5y ago
      FB has done a lot for dev space as well. PyTorch, React, etc. But still gets so much hate
- tekknik 5y ago
  > Maybe I'm in a bubble, but it seems while everyone uses Facebook to some extent... no one likes it. Hey now, not everybody is on FB.
checkyoursudo 5y ago
>> They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30 > I'm not a fan of facebook either but this is simply not true. I'm not sure that you can equate demographics and usage statistics to feelings about credibility. For example, I use a certain world-eating online retailer/marketplace a few times per year, but never for anything where I think there is a reasonably high chance that I would be purchasing counterfeit goods, because of my concerns about credibility.

micromacrofoot 5y ago

This isn't a statement about morals. I agree that no one cares about those. It's a statement that no one thinks "oh cool facebook" about literally anything they say or do. Their greatest successes in terms of social capital over the last decade have involved buying other companies. Maybe I'm in a bubble, but it seems while everyone uses Facebook to some extent... no one likes it.

edgyquant 5y ago
Nobody likes anything. People hate Google, Reddit, etc but they still use it because it provides utility.
- hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
  I like Google and Reddit, a lot. I think a lot of people do. My biggest beef with Google is just that their search engine seems to get worse with every new release, with more pages and pages of ads and a clusterf of rando content until I get to actual search results. But I still really like their service. Similarly, I like Reddit a lot. There are a ton of shitty subreddits but so what, I just don't go there. On the other hand, I hate Facebook. I wish I could find an easy way to stay connected to my existing friend network without the amount of vitriol I feel toward how my feed is organized.
- giansegato 5y ago
  I like Google, especially for the work they're doing in the Dev space (eg Tensorflow), and I love Apple. People do like companies, to certain extents.
  - mars4rp 5y ago
    FB has done a lot for dev space as well. PyTorch, React, etc. But still gets so much hate
tekknik 5y ago
> Maybe I'm in a bubble, but it seems while everyone uses Facebook to some extent... no one likes it. Hey now, not everybody is on FB.

checkyoursudo 5y ago

>> They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30 > I'm not a fan of facebook either but this is simply not true. I'm not sure that you can equate demographics and usage statistics to feelings about credibility. For example, I use a certain world-eating online retailer/marketplace a few times per year, but never for anything where I think there is a reasonably high chance that I would be purchasing counterfeit goods, because of my concerns about credibility.