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Having people on the street not know or care about who owns WhatsApp and Instagram seems like it might be the point.

Jansen312 5y ago
People on the street don't know about Alphabet is what the above post implied. People will not know about Meta as well hence everyone will still say it is own by Facebook which gotten so much negative feedback that it had to change its name to Meta but essentially still the FB who is own by that Zuck guy.
rexreed 5y ago
My point was that Google's rebrand DIDN'T work. Very few people know Google as Alphabet. They still know it as Google (the people on the street that is). So, will Facebook's rebrand have the effect of Bell Atlantic + GTE's rebrand as Verizon, or will it have the effect Google's rebrand as Alphabet? I hope (and feel) like the ruse will not work.
- frankchn 5y ago
  That's because all of Google's main consumer properties didn't get branding changes and are still all "Google Maps" or "Google Photos", etc... WhatsApp and Instagram are much stronger brands, and are not already branded "Facebook WhatsApp" or "WhatsApp by Facebook".
  - aidaman 5y ago
    Really not true. The same number of people will know Facebook as owning them as do now. Like now people are like, "you know Instagram is owned by Facebook right?" That's not going to change.
  - toast0 5y ago
    > "WhatsApp by Facebook". Well, the splash screen says "Whatsapp from Facebook", and the description on the Google Play store starts with "WhatsApp from Facebook is a FREE messaging and video calling app." So, it's out there, even if people haven't changed the way they think. Disclosure: I worked for WhatsApp until 2019
  - y4mi 5y ago
    They are called Google maps/Google photos because these are Google products. Google is responsible for alphabets web services. Check out Wikipedia for actual examples like waymo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc.)
- holistio 5y ago
  Including folks who work in the field - I've never heard "I just got a job at Alphabet".
- Barrin92 5y ago
  Google didn't change its org structure for consumer-facing rebranding purposes. It was a move for the market/investors, to separate out more clearly the (lack of) profitability of individual sectors and acquisitions of the company that don't happen to be ads or search. Alphabet was about creating internal transparency.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    That's the story. At the same time their former CEO made quite a few statements that did not sit well with the management of the daughter companies, Google's reputation is such that some distance really doesn't hurt in the PR department.
bena 5y ago
I think you have it flipped around. We still think of Alphabet as Google. So while Facebook may effectively become Meta, people will still say "Facebook does X" when they should technically mean "Meta does X".
- rexreed 5y ago
  Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the rebrand? If Facebook is going all in on Meta, wouldn't they want people to think Meta does X instead of Facebook does X? Especially if they're trying to distance themselves from the increasing stink that is Facebook.
  - bena 5y ago
    What Facebook wants and what the public winds up doing isn't necessarily the same thing.

People on the street don't know about Alphabet is what the above post implied. People will not know about Meta as well hence everyone will still say it is own by Facebook which gotten so much negative feedback that it had to change its name to Meta but essentially still the FB who is own by that Zuck guy.

rexreed 5y ago

My point was that Google's rebrand DIDN'T work. Very few people know Google as Alphabet. They still know it as Google (the people on the street that is). So, will Facebook's rebrand have the effect of Bell Atlantic + GTE's rebrand as Verizon, or will it have the effect Google's rebrand as Alphabet? I hope (and feel) like the ruse will not work.

frankchn 5y ago
That's because all of Google's main consumer properties didn't get branding changes and are still all "Google Maps" or "Google Photos", etc... WhatsApp and Instagram are much stronger brands, and are not already branded "Facebook WhatsApp" or "WhatsApp by Facebook".
- aidaman 5y ago
  Really not true. The same number of people will know Facebook as owning them as do now. Like now people are like, "you know Instagram is owned by Facebook right?" That's not going to change.
- toast0 5y ago
  > "WhatsApp by Facebook". Well, the splash screen says "Whatsapp from Facebook", and the description on the Google Play store starts with "WhatsApp from Facebook is a FREE messaging and video calling app." So, it's out there, even if people haven't changed the way they think. Disclosure: I worked for WhatsApp until 2019
- y4mi 5y ago
  They are called Google maps/Google photos because these are Google products. Google is responsible for alphabets web services. Check out Wikipedia for actual examples like waymo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc.)
holistio 5y ago
Including folks who work in the field - I've never heard "I just got a job at Alphabet".
Barrin92 5y ago
Google didn't change its org structure for consumer-facing rebranding purposes. It was a move for the market/investors, to separate out more clearly the (lack of) profitability of individual sectors and acquisitions of the company that don't happen to be ads or search. Alphabet was about creating internal transparency.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  That's the story. At the same time their former CEO made quite a few statements that did not sit well with the management of the daughter companies, Google's reputation is such that some distance really doesn't hurt in the PR department.

bena 5y ago

I think you have it flipped around. We still think of Alphabet as Google. So while Facebook may effectively become Meta, people will still say "Facebook does X" when they should technically mean "Meta does X".

rexreed 5y ago
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the rebrand? If Facebook is going all in on Meta, wouldn't they want people to think Meta does X instead of Facebook does X? Especially if they're trying to distance themselves from the increasing stink that is Facebook.
- bena 5y ago
  What Facebook wants and what the public winds up doing isn't necessarily the same thing.