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What are the traditional tools we can use to get ourselves out of depression? Exercise probably?

forgotmypw17 5y ago
In one of her books, Atwood describes a community which allowed people to be in a "fallow" state for as long as they needed it, taking care of their basic needs, being supportive of them, but otherwise allowing them to ruminate and do nothing as much as they wished. I think depression is an evolutionary response to situations which demand too much of us. It sends us into a state where we must take an extended rest to recharge and rebuild ourselves internally: physically, mentally, emotionally. I think not allowing for this is a huge shortcoming of our society, which considers continuous and stable productivity not only the norm, but a requirement.
iammisc 5y ago
Community, shared culture, shared religion. Exercise happens when you do those three things.
- vettedvat 5y ago
  All 3 are in abundance in Ethiopia. So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there? Folksy phrases aren't a great guide to mental health.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    > So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there Because there's no such thing as 'depressive disorder'. We expect people to be happy, and when they're not, we call them diseased. Nothing is wrong with them. Also, Ethiopia is in the midst of a civil war isn't it?
    - vettedvat 5y ago
      False, we expect people to be depressed when depressing things happen, this is normal and called "situational depression," you've confused it with a disorder. Depression has been a problem in Ethiopia for much longer than the conflict in Tigray, despite the abundance of "community, shared culture, shared religion." Looks like it takes more than that...
      - User23 5y ago
        > "community, shared culture, shared religion." I don't pretend to be an expert on Ethiopia, but I was under the impression that it's a multi-ethnic state of different tribes who don't necessarily share those things with each other.
        vettedvat 5y ago
        Christians actually have a larger majority in Ethiopia than in the US. Looks like it takes more than "community, shared culture, shared religion." Oops!
mtalantikite 5y ago
Buddhism has been working on this for a couple thousand or so years. There are many different practices and traditions that have evolved in it, but many of them at the beginning will teach you to sit and observe all sorts of phenomena, or may even ask you to bring up uncomfortable, strong emotions to learn how to work with them. And yeah, for sure exercise. Just remember the practice of training your body is a marathon, not a sprint. Consistent effort over years is what you're going for rather than trying to go hard at the beginning. It's a lifestyle change.

In one of her books, Atwood describes a community which allowed people to be in a "fallow" state for as long as they needed it, taking care of their basic needs, being supportive of them, but otherwise allowing them to ruminate and do nothing as much as they wished. I think depression is an evolutionary response to situations which demand too much of us. It sends us into a state where we must take an extended rest to recharge and rebuild ourselves internally: physically, mentally, emotionally. I think not allowing for this is a huge shortcoming of our society, which considers continuous and stable productivity not only the norm, but a requirement.

iammisc 5y ago

Community, shared culture, shared religion. Exercise happens when you do those three things.

vettedvat 5y ago
All 3 are in abundance in Ethiopia. So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there? Folksy phrases aren't a great guide to mental health.
- iammisc 5y ago
  > So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there Because there's no such thing as 'depressive disorder'. We expect people to be happy, and when they're not, we call them diseased. Nothing is wrong with them. Also, Ethiopia is in the midst of a civil war isn't it?
  - vettedvat 5y ago
    False, we expect people to be depressed when depressing things happen, this is normal and called "situational depression," you've confused it with a disorder. Depression has been a problem in Ethiopia for much longer than the conflict in Tigray, despite the abundance of "community, shared culture, shared religion." Looks like it takes more than that...
    - User23 5y ago
      > "community, shared culture, shared religion." I don't pretend to be an expert on Ethiopia, but I was under the impression that it's a multi-ethnic state of different tribes who don't necessarily share those things with each other.
      - vettedvat 5y ago
        Christians actually have a larger majority in Ethiopia than in the US. Looks like it takes more than "community, shared culture, shared religion." Oops!

mtalantikite 5y ago

Buddhism has been working on this for a couple thousand or so years. There are many different practices and traditions that have evolved in it, but many of them at the beginning will teach you to sit and observe all sorts of phenomena, or may even ask you to bring up uncomfortable, strong emotions to learn how to work with them. And yeah, for sure exercise. Just remember the practice of training your body is a marathon, not a sprint. Consistent effort over years is what you're going for rather than trying to go hard at the beginning. It's a lifestyle change.