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This all sounds like high octane speed-ball (used to be just mixing some basic speed with something like Vicodin, or an Adderral/Ritalin + Vicodin/Percocet), bu

• loeg 5y ago
  For duration of effect, at least meth might more closely match an opioid than cocaine (classic speedball). Part of the high danger of speedballs is that the stimulant (coke) wears off much faster than the depressant. Amphetamines have a longer duration of effect than cocaine, I think.
  • onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
    If stimulants and depressants are balancing each other out - what's the appeal in taking both? Why wouldn't you only want to take one? Or do you usually only take the other, recreationally, when you get too stimulated or depressed?
    • crate_barre 5y ago
      The come down on speed is awful. The come down on high dosage Adderral is awful, you’ll be jittery and and unable to sleep. Imagine Meth or Coke now. The combination is to create the perfect drug, you speed up, hit the half life, and then instead of the awful come down, you ease in to a landing with the calmness of an Opiod that will rockabye baby you away from intense anxiety and hopefully relax you into sleep. Certainly not something to make a habit of, you’ll be dead in the long run (but I suppose no one gets out alive in this life anyway). Cheers. I honestly can’t tell what’s worse, a speedball or using Alcohol to blackout after 18 hours of being on speed. Oh I know what’s worse, Meth + Fentanyl. How the wicked live.
      • loeg 5y ago
        Benzos are probably a better come down from speed than either alcohol or opiates.
    • loeg 5y ago
      They don't really cancel out. I don't know what the appeal is, other than getting really fucked up.