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Oh? https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2021-10-25/californias-unemployment-fraud-reaches-at-least-20-billion https://www.usnews.com/new
by NtochkaNzvanova 5y ago
Oh? https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2021-10-25/californias-unemployment-fraud-reaches-at-least-20-billion https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/... "California has paid at least $20 billion in fraudulent unemployment benefits since the start of the pandemic."
- klyrs 5y ago> ... confirming a number smaller than originally feared but one that still accounts for more than 11% of all benefits paid since the start of the pandemic. The overwhelming majority not being fraudulent. That's rather the point, isn't it?
- NtochkaNzvanova 5y agoSo this would only be a problem if more than 50% is fraudulent? Or what number? 11%, or $20B is still a massive amount of fraud.
- klyrs 5y agoOf course fraud is a problem. But 11% fraud isn't a reason to scrub the program altogether, either.
- NtochkaNzvanova 5y agoWasn't implying that this particular program should be scrapped (though it was clearly implemented in crisis mode, with predictable lack of protection), only arguing against the OP's claim that the amount of abuse of social programs is small.
- dlp211 5y agoYou cited one program built quickly in an emergency. If you take something far more stable and longer running, say SNAP, only about 1.5% is established as fraud.