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You ever look into ketamine for treating depression? Self medicated this past weekend and had some major breakthroughs with my long time depression/suicidal in

You ever look into ketamine for treating depression? Self medicated this past weekend and had some major breakthroughs with my long time depression/suicidal intrusive thoughts. Nice thing is you don’t have to stay on it unlike other antidepressants—I would never do a medication that you have to constantly take.

thanatos519 5y ago
Try 2F-DCK. Many benefits but no K-hole.
standardUser 5y ago
"I would never do a medication that you have to constantly take." Tell that to your heart doctor when you're 70.
- lost-found 5y ago
  Probably will.
cwkoss 5y ago
Ketamine can be pretty rough on the bladder and kidneys. Please read up on the risks. It is definitely dangerous to take recreational doses several times per week - it seems that low/moderate doses every week or two avoids most of the problems while still providing therapeutic effects, but definitely keep an eye on the health of those systems, ideally with letting your doctor know so they can help. Many of users on /r/researchchemicals using either ket or novel analogs at recreational doses regularly for both fun and depression relief end up with bladder issues after over-consuming for a period - so while it's a promising depression treatment, I'd recommend caution around dosage and frequency and titrating to find your minimum effective dose.
- lost-found 5y ago
  Of course, anything taken in excess has risks.
- deleted 5y ago
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- lowercase1 5y ago
  Recreational doses are 10x-30x that of medical doses and those effects are quite a bit less at medical doses https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/drug-users-use-a-lot-of-drugs https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/drug-users-use-a-lot-o...
ghostbrainalpha 5y ago
I just lost a friend to Ketamine, and there is another thread on the front page about someone famous who destroyed their life with it. Ketamine seems like a miracle but a ton of people cant control their usage of it at all. Even if you think you know how addiction works, Ketamine sneaks up on you in a way cocaine, heroin, and oxytocin do not. Please be careful.
- lost-found 5y ago
  Of course, I am very responsible with my illicit drug use. Probably did < 50mg across several night and am not planning on doing it again for 6+ months. Good advice though for everyone!
ljm 5y ago
I appreciate the concern but, honestly, it's exhausting to keep fielding 'have you tried...', 'have you looked into...', 'have you explored...' questions. I get that it comes from a good place, but I'm sharing my experience, not asking for advice. The best help you and others can offer is to just listen, instead of offering another solution. There are two replies to me in the 'have you tried' vein. I'm not aiming it at you specifically, just trying to stop a pattern.
- lost-found 5y ago
  I get what you’re saying. The only reason I suggested looking into it is because they are seeing hugely promising results (70%+ reported improving symptoms) but you only have to do a few sessions. It’s not another pill you have to take each morning.
- neverendingsigh 5y ago
  For what it's worth, from at least one person's perspective it's exhausting to just read these replies, as if you or other OPs are eternally naive neophytes with no experience or understanding, or that providing a personal anecdote is automatically, implicitly, and irrevocably requesting advice. This tends to be the case with a lot of medical discussions online, but especially with mental health. (It would be somewhat better if these questions were asking for advice themselves—"Have you tried $medication? It's been recommended to me and I'm interested in others' experiences"—but it's almost always "Surely you haven't tried ($medication || $lifestyle_change || $religion || just_grow_up()) because I have and it's a panacea.")
  - ljm 5y ago
    Thanks. I just want to share and be heard, and maybe someone can relate. Good intentions all around, but people need to understand that you're not always someone to be helped or saved. It can feel quite disempowering at times.

thanatos519 5y ago

Try 2F-DCK. Many benefits but no K-hole.

standardUser 5y ago

"I would never do a medication that you have to constantly take." Tell that to your heart doctor when you're 70.

lost-found 5y ago
Probably will.

cwkoss 5y ago

Ketamine can be pretty rough on the bladder and kidneys. Please read up on the risks. It is definitely dangerous to take recreational doses several times per week - it seems that low/moderate doses every week or two avoids most of the problems while still providing therapeutic effects, but definitely keep an eye on the health of those systems, ideally with letting your doctor know so they can help. Many of users on /r/researchchemicals using either ket or novel analogs at recreational doses regularly for both fun and depression relief end up with bladder issues after over-consuming for a period - so while it's a promising depression treatment, I'd recommend caution around dosage and frequency and titrating to find your minimum effective dose.

lost-found 5y ago
Of course, anything taken in excess has risks.
deleted 5y ago
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lowercase1 5y ago
Recreational doses are 10x-30x that of medical doses and those effects are quite a bit less at medical doses https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/drug-users-use-a-lot-of-drugs https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/drug-users-use-a-lot-o...

ghostbrainalpha 5y ago

I just lost a friend to Ketamine, and there is another thread on the front page about someone famous who destroyed their life with it. Ketamine seems like a miracle but a ton of people cant control their usage of it at all. Even if you think you know how addiction works, Ketamine sneaks up on you in a way cocaine, heroin, and oxytocin do not. Please be careful.

lost-found 5y ago
Of course, I am very responsible with my illicit drug use. Probably did < 50mg across several night and am not planning on doing it again for 6+ months. Good advice though for everyone!

ljm 5y ago

I appreciate the concern but, honestly, it's exhausting to keep fielding 'have you tried...', 'have you looked into...', 'have you explored...' questions. I get that it comes from a good place, but I'm sharing my experience, not asking for advice. The best help you and others can offer is to just listen, instead of offering another solution. There are two replies to me in the 'have you tried' vein. I'm not aiming it at you specifically, just trying to stop a pattern.

lost-found 5y ago
I get what you’re saying. The only reason I suggested looking into it is because they are seeing hugely promising results (70%+ reported improving symptoms) but you only have to do a few sessions. It’s not another pill you have to take each morning.
neverendingsigh 5y ago
For what it's worth, from at least one person's perspective it's exhausting to just read these replies, as if you or other OPs are eternally naive neophytes with no experience or understanding, or that providing a personal anecdote is automatically, implicitly, and irrevocably requesting advice. This tends to be the case with a lot of medical discussions online, but especially with mental health. (It would be somewhat better if these questions were asking for advice themselves—"Have you tried $medication? It's been recommended to me and I'm interested in others' experiences"—but it's almost always "Surely you haven't tried ($medication || $lifestyle_change || $religion || just_grow_up()) because I have and it's a panacea.")
- ljm 5y ago
  Thanks. I just want to share and be heard, and maybe someone can relate. Good intentions all around, but people need to understand that you're not always someone to be helped or saved. It can feel quite disempowering at times.