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I wonder if there is a market for sex toys that specifically are only peer to peer. These interactive ones require a social component. On another note regardin
by vmception 5y ago
I wonder if there is a market for sex toys that specifically are only peer to peer. These interactive ones require a social component.
On another note regarding the non-social offline sex toy market, I've found that it is unnecessarily gendered that female sex toys are accepted in more circles than male sex toys. ie a single female with a dildo is almost an expected or fun thing maybe initially received by their female friends in a fun way, whereas a single or coupled male with a fleshlight is not seen as a positive thing in any context. I can perceive the supporting toxic culture that reinforces this standard, it is still unnecessarily gendered, and I think that angle at this point in time can help deconstruct a lot of these standards.
- azalemeth 5y agoI don't know about others, but for me fleshlights just look seedy and a bit sad. Dildos are acceptable because they're much less human, I think -- they're almost sculpture. Put a tenga egg on your mantelpiece and I doubt anyone will bat an eyebrow...
- excalibur 5y agoDildos are more socially acceptable because it's usually understood that the woman could have an actual penis if she wished, but on this occasion is choosing the toy instead. Men would rarely choose a Fleshlight over an actual vagina. If they're using one it's understood that this is the closest they can get to the real thing at the moment, hence the sadness.
- vmception 5y agoExhibit A > I can perceive the supporting toxic culture that reinforces this standard, it is still unnecessarily gendered, and I think that angle at this point in time can help deconstruct a lot of these standards. Right now, men wouldn't choose one because of the perception of failure. It's not exactly settled about which one feels better or would be the objective choice to men.
- vmception 5y agoFleshlights have other models that don’t look like a “labia flesh flashlight vagina” at all To me that’s besides the point though Any man with a synthetix orifice or solo penis pleasure device around is getting vilified right now
- spywaregorilla 5y agoimo its because male sex toys tend to look like actual vaginas for a fake sex experience whereas female sex toys tend to look like solid color silicon toy for a tactile experience. Yes, there are female toys that look like big veiny skin toned dicks and there are male toys that are just silicon whatevers, but they're not the common mental image. If you browse a male sex toy store you're likely to see a lot of stuff which is advertised as actual 1:1 replicas of specific porn stars' orifices. A lot of it has a pretty pathetic, creepy vibe for me. But a good share seems as normal as female vibrators.
- foldr 5y agoThe marketing is weird, but I’d imagine that a lot of the guys buying them don’t really care how much the toy resembles some porn star’s vagina. I think the stigma goes a bit deeper than that.
- ethbr0 5y agoI think it's what happens when you have a sex toy marketing department, in a largely commoditized product segment, where the majority of product is a branded Chinese clone. "What makes ours different?"
- spywaregorilla 5y agoMaybe, but the fake vagina in general is just gross looking and conveys perversion. The stigma is that you come off as a pervert. That's pretty much it from my perspective. It would be weirder to find a skin toned realistic dick dildo in a woman's room than it would be to find a silicon vibrator ring or wand or tube in a man's room.
- vmception 5y agoyeah I'm going to say "so what" to that, even if that was 100% of the market and an accurate mental image.
- spywaregorilla 5y agoAppearing gross and perverted to most people is the so what. You can acknowledge that even if you're totally sex positive.
- standardUser 5y agoTo me, fleshlights have a negative connotations because I think of creepy guys and incel types being the target audience. That's totally false of course! But unfortunately that's the stigma that seems to be attached to them. Though to be fair, we need to make a lot of progress de-stigmatizing all sex toys, not just fleshlights.