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> It was the proof that if you have too much wind on Friday, you can create hydrogen with it and then use it to switch on your lights, heat a room or power your

> It was the proof that if you have too much wind on Friday, you can create hydrogen with it and then use it to switch on your lights, heat a room or power your car on Sunday. This might be one of the most positive news stories I've seen in a long while. If we can make this work here we can eventually find ways to make this work at scale.

nuerow 5y ago
If I recall correctly, both Australia and Morocco are already investing in hydrogen generation for export following pretty much this principle.
- halfdan 5y ago
  For export? The idea of using clean energy to produce hydrogen to then ship it off with a crude oil powered tanker is just .. beyond me.
  - ephbit 5y ago
    Well, is it really all that absurd to use an existing vessel with a working engine (which uses whatever kind of fuel, not really relevant) to transport some random kind of cargo? In my opinion it's not absurd at all. Would you advocate for only allowing transportation of renewable fuels with means of transportation that use renewable energy themselves? That'd mean throwing away quite a few newly built engines and many more old and perfectly working ones and building new ones ... that'd seem like a waste to me. Making the shipping industry carbon neutral is of course part of the task .. but according to a quick web search worldwide shipping amounts to ~ 4.5 % of greenhouse gas emissions .. that's only a fraction and not the big chunk that ought to get all the attention.
  - jdlshore 5y ago
    Change happens in small steps. First, supply of clean energy. Then abundant supply. Then economic superiority. Then oil-powered tankers disappear. If you try to put the last step first, the whole thing falls apart.
  - rndmind 5y ago
    you realize of course, eventually the tanker will be fueled with hydrogen..?
  - nuerow 5y ago
    > The idea of using clean energy to produce hydrogen to then ship it off with a crude oil powered tanker is just .. beyond me. In that case it might blow your mind the fact that natural gas is shipped in crude oil powered tankers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNG_carrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNG_carrier

nuerow 5y ago

If I recall correctly, both Australia and Morocco are already investing in hydrogen generation for export following pretty much this principle.

halfdan 5y ago
For export? The idea of using clean energy to produce hydrogen to then ship it off with a crude oil powered tanker is just .. beyond me.
- ephbit 5y ago
  Well, is it really all that absurd to use an existing vessel with a working engine (which uses whatever kind of fuel, not really relevant) to transport some random kind of cargo? In my opinion it's not absurd at all. Would you advocate for only allowing transportation of renewable fuels with means of transportation that use renewable energy themselves? That'd mean throwing away quite a few newly built engines and many more old and perfectly working ones and building new ones ... that'd seem like a waste to me. Making the shipping industry carbon neutral is of course part of the task .. but according to a quick web search worldwide shipping amounts to ~ 4.5 % of greenhouse gas emissions .. that's only a fraction and not the big chunk that ought to get all the attention.
- jdlshore 5y ago
  Change happens in small steps. First, supply of clean energy. Then abundant supply. Then economic superiority. Then oil-powered tankers disappear. If you try to put the last step first, the whole thing falls apart.
- rndmind 5y ago
  you realize of course, eventually the tanker will be fueled with hydrogen..?
- nuerow 5y ago
  > The idea of using clean energy to produce hydrogen to then ship it off with a crude oil powered tanker is just .. beyond me. In that case it might blow your mind the fact that natural gas is shipped in crude oil powered tankers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNG_carrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNG_carrier