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Now you have the problem of if every TSA worker and other officials will believe your document with an X is not forged

rileymat2 5y ago
Do they look at the document in any detail to see that to find forgeries at scale or is it looking at certain watermarks and such intended to detect forgeries?
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  They just scan it and and see what computer says. It's no harder than a cashier at a supermarket. Does TSA check your docs at all or is it up to immigration clarks?
bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Seems like you just invented this problem so you can say "Dem LGBTQ just making problems..". Do you think a forger would be dumb enough to make an otherwise perfect-looking forgery but put X where F and M is the value for almost 100% of the currently issued passport?
- ajford 5y ago
  I took it more as a comment on the sheer ineptitude and uselessness of TSA as anything beyond security theater. I have no qualms about the change and think it's about damn time they made even this tiny modicum of effort to support non-binary people, but I'm almost certain that anyone with an X will be questioned about it regardless. Hell, even perfectly legit passports get questioned all the time. Story time! A buddy of mine flies with his US passport at all times, even for domestic flights, because he's of Arab decent and constantly gets hassled for it. One time we were flying together with a student group (we were in college at the time), he gets pulled aside by a couple of TSA agents as part of a "random inspection", out of a line of 20-30 people all mostly white or light complected. He starts getting grilled about everything from destination, reason for the flight, bags, etc. Then they ask to see his ID and boarding pass. He hands over his passport and boarding pass and they start going off on him as to why he's got his passport for a domestic flight, how that looks suspicious and such. He responds with "I get stopped for looking Arab every time I fly, so this just proves I'm a US citizen and is a federal ID." They stop and finally realize they've got everyone looking at them, hand back his passport and ticket and walk away.
  - TimedToasts 5y ago
    Did everyone clap?

Do they look at the document in any detail to see that to find forgeries at scale or is it looking at certain watermarks and such intended to detect forgeries?

dzhiurgis 5y ago
They just scan it and and see what computer says. It's no harder than a cashier at a supermarket. Does TSA check your docs at all or is it up to immigration clarks?

bellyfullofbac 5y ago

Seems like you just invented this problem so you can say "Dem LGBTQ just making problems..". Do you think a forger would be dumb enough to make an otherwise perfect-looking forgery but put X where F and M is the value for almost 100% of the currently issued passport?

ajford 5y ago
I took it more as a comment on the sheer ineptitude and uselessness of TSA as anything beyond security theater. I have no qualms about the change and think it's about damn time they made even this tiny modicum of effort to support non-binary people, but I'm almost certain that anyone with an X will be questioned about it regardless. Hell, even perfectly legit passports get questioned all the time. Story time! A buddy of mine flies with his US passport at all times, even for domestic flights, because he's of Arab decent and constantly gets hassled for it. One time we were flying together with a student group (we were in college at the time), he gets pulled aside by a couple of TSA agents as part of a "random inspection", out of a line of 20-30 people all mostly white or light complected. He starts getting grilled about everything from destination, reason for the flight, bags, etc. Then they ask to see his ID and boarding pass. He hands over his passport and boarding pass and they start going off on him as to why he's got his passport for a domestic flight, how that looks suspicious and such. He responds with "I get stopped for looking Arab every time I fly, so this just proves I'm a US citizen and is a federal ID." They stop and finally realize they've got everyone looking at them, hand back his passport and ticket and walk away.
- TimedToasts 5y ago
  Did everyone clap?