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> People expect a company that's ramping up faster than any other in the history Tesla was founded in 2002, during the same timespan Facebook became ubiquitous

by GDC7 5y ago

> People expect a company that's ramping up faster than any other in the history Tesla was founded in 2002, during the same timespan Facebook became ubiquitous in our lives, Google became the homepage of the world and Amazon became the go-to place to make purchases. Microsoft did even better between 1975-1995. The world was much larger and disconnected back then and yet they managed to became so ubiquitous to reach the monopoly status, such a dominance that the US government had to step in like they did with Standard Oil. I commute to work daily . 25 miles back and forth and I am lucky if I see one Tesla . After 20 years the company most successful and ubiquitous product is its stock

cecilpl2 5y ago
> I commute 25 miles back and forth to work and I am lucky if I see one Tesla . Where on earth do you live? I can barely walk down the street without tripping over one. It's not a stretch to say I'd see several dozen on a short morning run.
- godshatter 5y ago
  Not the original poster, but I'm guessing they live somewhere other than California or New York. The nearest Tesla supercharging station to myself is a two-hour drive away, for example. While I could use one to drive to and from work or to businesses in the area, I won't be using it to go almost anywhere else any time soon. At least, not without planning my routes around that availability. As a contrast, the small town I live in has six gas stations. I'm looking forward to the day that the infrastructure is ubiquitous enough that I can buy a fully electric vehicle, but that day isn't here yet.
oxplot 5y ago
That’s not apple to apple comparison. Try other vehicle manufacturers and see where your numbers end up. Ramping up a multi thousand part product with hundreds of suppliers is a whole different ball game than scaling an online website.
panick21_ 5y ago
Are you comparing software companies to a manufacturing company? They were making new technology that people basically thought was impossible. By 2012 they had only sold 1000 vehicles. That how hard it was. Since Model S however they have grown about as fast as any manufacturing based company in history and they have very clear potential to continue to do so for a few years more at the very least. Tesla basically invest huge into growing a chemical industry to make the batteries. That simply not something that just magically happens within a few years. > Microsoft did even better between 1975-1995. Because Microsoft was running on ALL computers designed from lots and lots of companies. Rather the computers were designed for it. > such a dominance that the US government had to step in like they did with Standard Oil. They didn't 'had to' they wanted to.
- GDC7 5y ago
  When you advertise yourself as a tech company you are bound to be compared against other tech companies. More generally companies from every sector are compared against each other to see which one provides the highest improvement in citizens' quality of life . Tesla produces lots of noise but the improvement in citizens' quality of life is basically none or negligible. Google, Facebook and Microsoft completely dominate Tesla in this fundamental, during the same timespan.
  - panick21_ 5y ago
    They are a car company that is slowly turning itself into a multi-faceted company. They are doing some tech like things, but they are also turning into a chemical company and an a equipment and manufacturing company. They are also an infrastructure provider. They want to turn into a robotics company. > More generally companies from every sector are compared against each other to see which one provides the highest improvement in citizens' quality of life . Cars are the single largest expense other then a house people make. Of course its gone have less overall impact then a free product that everybody is gone spend very little time on. The Supercharger network alone and showing the way for EV infrastructure will have a huge impact on everybody. > Tesla produces lots of noise but the improvement in citizens' quality of life is basically none or negligible. People usually love their Tesla and that is reflected in the data that is gathered about that. Cars are the second most expensive people buy behind a house. They have huge impact on the people who buy them and clearly less on those that don't. > Google, Facebook and Microsoft completely dominate Tesla in this fundamental, during the same timespan. Idiotic comparison, no matter how long you talk about it.

by GDC7 5y ago

cecilpl2 5y ago

> I commute 25 miles back and forth to work and I am lucky if I see one Tesla . Where on earth do you live? I can barely walk down the street without tripping over one. It's not a stretch to say I'd see several dozen on a short morning run.

godshatter 5y ago
Not the original poster, but I'm guessing they live somewhere other than California or New York. The nearest Tesla supercharging station to myself is a two-hour drive away, for example. While I could use one to drive to and from work or to businesses in the area, I won't be using it to go almost anywhere else any time soon. At least, not without planning my routes around that availability. As a contrast, the small town I live in has six gas stations. I'm looking forward to the day that the infrastructure is ubiquitous enough that I can buy a fully electric vehicle, but that day isn't here yet.

oxplot 5y ago

That’s not apple to apple comparison. Try other vehicle manufacturers and see where your numbers end up. Ramping up a multi thousand part product with hundreds of suppliers is a whole different ball game than scaling an online website.

panick21_ 5y ago

Are you comparing software companies to a manufacturing company? They were making new technology that people basically thought was impossible. By 2012 they had only sold 1000 vehicles. That how hard it was. Since Model S however they have grown about as fast as any manufacturing based company in history and they have very clear potential to continue to do so for a few years more at the very least. Tesla basically invest huge into growing a chemical industry to make the batteries. That simply not something that just magically happens within a few years. > Microsoft did even better between 1975-1995. Because Microsoft was running on ALL computers designed from lots and lots of companies. Rather the computers were designed for it. > such a dominance that the US government had to step in like they did with Standard Oil. They didn't 'had to' they wanted to.

GDC7 5y ago
When you advertise yourself as a tech company you are bound to be compared against other tech companies. More generally companies from every sector are compared against each other to see which one provides the highest improvement in citizens' quality of life . Tesla produces lots of noise but the improvement in citizens' quality of life is basically none or negligible. Google, Facebook and Microsoft completely dominate Tesla in this fundamental, during the same timespan.
- panick21_ 5y ago
  They are a car company that is slowly turning itself into a multi-faceted company. They are doing some tech like things, but they are also turning into a chemical company and an a equipment and manufacturing company. They are also an infrastructure provider. They want to turn into a robotics company. > More generally companies from every sector are compared against each other to see which one provides the highest improvement in citizens' quality of life . Cars are the single largest expense other then a house people make. Of course its gone have less overall impact then a free product that everybody is gone spend very little time on. The Supercharger network alone and showing the way for EV infrastructure will have a huge impact on everybody. > Tesla produces lots of noise but the improvement in citizens' quality of life is basically none or negligible. People usually love their Tesla and that is reflected in the data that is gathered about that. Cars are the second most expensive people buy behind a house. They have huge impact on the people who buy them and clearly less on those that don't. > Google, Facebook and Microsoft completely dominate Tesla in this fundamental, during the same timespan. Idiotic comparison, no matter how long you talk about it.