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Raspian still relies on inferior wifi management. You have to replace with network-manager to get it to connect to Enterprise wifi. Is there any specific reason

Raspian still relies on inferior wifi management. You have to replace with network-manager to get it to connect to Enterprise wifi. Is there any specific reason why it's not the default?

moffkalast 5y ago
Well that's stock on both Debian and Ubuntu still, right? It's more of a question why they haven't replaced it either.
- ComputerGuru 5y ago
  It’s not.
- kiwijamo 5y ago
  Been a while since I've used Debian but I'm sure Debian is already using NetworkManager. This means the Raspberry OS has actually removed NetworkManager from its Debian base and put in something else. I agree with the OP this shouldn't happen. For my Raspberry Pi, I ended up switching out the Raspberry Pi OS' default networking manager thingy in preference for NetworkManager so I could share wireless networking configuration among my devices. It also helps with troubleshooting as well since I can just use the same commands I use on other Linux machines even those running other distros.
jandrese 5y ago
Probably because SystemD network management is harder to use on a headless install. With a Raspberry Pi you just need to edit a couple of lines in the boot.conf to have it connect to WiFi on boot. You can deploy one without ever plugging in a keyboard or monitor.
- pc86 5y ago
  How do you edit boot.conf without a keyboard or monitor?
  - walrus01 5y ago
    you pre-configure the boot.conf and other settings on the same system you use to write the raspbian image onto the microSD card, before you put it in the pi. if you get the config right you should be able to boot a pi headless and ssh to it over your 802.11n/ac/ax network immediately after the first time it powers up.
  - s800 5y ago
    Mount the sd card elsewhere, the boot partition is FAT formatted and can be edited on most OSes.
  - ArgyleSound 5y ago
    it's on a FAT partition, you can edit it by plugging the sd card into something else
  - test6554 5y ago
    This question is so apt that it gave me a chuckle. I've done it before, but I had to think about that one for a second. You have to edit the file while the SD card is plugged into a separate computer.

Raspian still relies on inferior wifi management. You have to replace with network-manager to get it to connect to Enterprise wifi. Is there any specific reason why it's not the default?

moffkalast 5y ago

Well that's stock on both Debian and Ubuntu still, right? It's more of a question why they haven't replaced it either.

ComputerGuru 5y ago
It’s not.
kiwijamo 5y ago
Been a while since I've used Debian but I'm sure Debian is already using NetworkManager. This means the Raspberry OS has actually removed NetworkManager from its Debian base and put in something else. I agree with the OP this shouldn't happen. For my Raspberry Pi, I ended up switching out the Raspberry Pi OS' default networking manager thingy in preference for NetworkManager so I could share wireless networking configuration among my devices. It also helps with troubleshooting as well since I can just use the same commands I use on other Linux machines even those running other distros.

jandrese 5y ago

Probably because SystemD network management is harder to use on a headless install. With a Raspberry Pi you just need to edit a couple of lines in the boot.conf to have it connect to WiFi on boot. You can deploy one without ever plugging in a keyboard or monitor.

pc86 5y ago
How do you edit boot.conf without a keyboard or monitor?
- walrus01 5y ago
  you pre-configure the boot.conf and other settings on the same system you use to write the raspbian image onto the microSD card, before you put it in the pi. if you get the config right you should be able to boot a pi headless and ssh to it over your 802.11n/ac/ax network immediately after the first time it powers up.
- s800 5y ago
  Mount the sd card elsewhere, the boot partition is FAT formatted and can be edited on most OSes.
- ArgyleSound 5y ago
  it's on a FAT partition, you can edit it by plugging the sd card into something else
- test6554 5y ago
  This question is so apt that it gave me a chuckle. I've done it before, but I had to think about that one for a second. You have to edit the file while the SD card is plugged into a separate computer.