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> Just because you can push out X TFlops at 20W does not mean you can push out 5X TFlops at 100W. But it does mean you can push out X TFlops at 20W for 5x long

> Just because you can push out X TFlops at 20W does not mean you can push out 5X TFlops at 100W. But it does mean you can push out X TFlops at 20W for 5x longer given the same battery than you can at 100W, no?

ohgodplsno 5y ago
For a laptop, sure, but that's not what's interesting me in a desktop, which is what people are jerking themselves off over with the potential of the M1 and M2. For many workloads, power consumption isn't an issue. I want my CPU to draw 150W and burn as hard as possible to make my build finish as fast as possible.
- mdp2021 5y ago
  The State of California last summer sent out news they were considering banning or restricting the sales of desktop computer intended for gaming, out of power consumption considerations. And there is an eletric power crises in many areas of the world currently. Economy of consumption remains a "hot" topic.
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    Please, do not get your news from Reason magazine. California Title 20 efficiency code for appliances includes formulas for how much energy a computer may consume in a year. They don't ban gaming systems or any other system. I actually really appreciate how these regulations are written because they favor computers that do more with their energy input, since they allow a larger energy budget for powerful computers, scaling up based on system memory, storage, and bandwidth. https://energycodeace.com/site/custom/public/reference-ace-t20/index.html#!Documents/section16053statestandardsfornonfederallyregulatedappliances.htm#vcomputerscomputermonitorstelevisionssignagedisplaysandconsumera5.htm https://energycodeace.com/site/custom/public/reference-ace-t...
  - ohgodplsno 5y ago
    Ah, yes, the evil gaming PCs with their 650-800W power supplies must be banned. I don't see California banning keeping neon signs on at night when buildings and shops are closed. Their threat is pure posturing and pretending that the problem lies on individuals when the most egregious power wastes are done in companies.
- jbverschoor 5y ago
  Wait for the newer Mac Pro if you want that.

ohgodplsno 5y ago

For a laptop, sure, but that's not what's interesting me in a desktop, which is what people are jerking themselves off over with the potential of the M1 and M2. For many workloads, power consumption isn't an issue. I want my CPU to draw 150W and burn as hard as possible to make my build finish as fast as possible.

mdp2021 5y ago
The State of California last summer sent out news they were considering banning or restricting the sales of desktop computer intended for gaming, out of power consumption considerations. And there is an eletric power crises in many areas of the world currently. Economy of consumption remains a "hot" topic.
- jeffbee 5y ago
  Please, do not get your news from Reason magazine. California Title 20 efficiency code for appliances includes formulas for how much energy a computer may consume in a year. They don't ban gaming systems or any other system. I actually really appreciate how these regulations are written because they favor computers that do more with their energy input, since they allow a larger energy budget for powerful computers, scaling up based on system memory, storage, and bandwidth. https://energycodeace.com/site/custom/public/reference-ace-t20/index.html#!Documents/section16053statestandardsfornonfederallyregulatedappliances.htm#vcomputerscomputermonitorstelevisionssignagedisplaysandconsumera5.htm https://energycodeace.com/site/custom/public/reference-ace-t...
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  Ah, yes, the evil gaming PCs with their 650-800W power supplies must be banned. I don't see California banning keeping neon signs on at night when buildings and shops are closed. Their threat is pure posturing and pretending that the problem lies on individuals when the most egregious power wastes are done in companies.
jbverschoor 5y ago
Wait for the newer Mac Pro if you want that.