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Probably eating the oatmeal that made his cholesterol get higher. There are now tons of research coming out about how cereals (wheat and corn specially) are ba

Probably eating the oatmeal that made his cholesterol get higher. There are now tons of research coming out about how cereals (wheat and corn specially) are basically the culprit of a lot of diseases that in the past were blamed on "fat", and also that this past blame was partially due to corruption (for example coca-cola literally gave six digits money to Harvard scientists so they would lie and say sugar was safe and the culprit for people problems was meat).

shlant 5y ago
> Probably eating the oatmeal that made his cholesterol get higher. I... don't think so https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/research-were-watching-whole-grain-oats-best-bet-for-lowering-cholesterol https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/research-were-wa... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161007085247.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161007085247.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5885279/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5885279/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080108102225.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080108102225.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5394769/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5394769/ > There are now tons of research coming out about how cereals (wheat and corn specially) are basically the culprit of a lot of diseases Care to share more on what you are referring to?
- aserdf 5y ago
  (not op) for reference, 39g of oats contains 28g of carbohydrates. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you... - The biggest influence on blood cholesterol level is the mix of fats and carbohydrates in your diet—not the amount of cholesterol you eat from food. - Although it remains important to limit the amount of cholesterol you eat, especially if you have diabetes, for most people dietary cholesterol is not as problematic as once believed.
  - sizzle 5y ago
    What’s up with the conflicting info on carbohydrates? Should I skip the bowl of oatmeal every morning?
    - bruce343434 5y ago
      This seems to be a thing for pretty much every food/nutritional category. I've decided for myself to just "ignore" the science since the definition of "healthy" seems to change so often. Instead I try to use common sense for picking my meals.
    - bongoman37 5y ago
      Food science is highly politicised because of the massive amounts of lobbying involved. If you have the time and expertise, you should look at the actual paper, correlate it with things like sample size, age of participants, funders biases and then come up with your own conclusions. Also, research on oneself is great, vary something, measure whether it makes a positive difference, if yes, do more of it, if not, try something else. Lots of 'scientific' nutrition advice is outright wrong and harmful.
    - shlant 5y ago
      any nutrition advice that makes sweeping statements about entire macronutrients (protein/fat/carbohydrates) should be ignored and is mostly used to sell fad diets. "Carbohydrates" could be HFCS or leafy greens. "Fats" could be shortening or avocado. The nutrition of the individual food is much more important than the macronutrients.
voldacar 5y ago
dietary cholesterol has a negligible effect on blood cholesterol levels. Almost all cholesterol in the body is endogenously created
- rhinoceraptor 5y ago
  There's a U-shaped curve for all cause mortality with cholesterol levels, just like anything else. Cholesterol is not bad, it's literally the building block of steroid hormones, vitamin D, etc. Similarly, there's a good argument to be made that most people actually eat too little salt. If you compare most sodium guidelines to data of sodium intake versus all cause mortality, you're more at risk of death following the guidelines.

shlant 5y ago

> Probably eating the oatmeal that made his cholesterol get higher. I... don't think so https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/research-were-watching-whole-grain-oats-best-bet-for-lowering-cholesterol https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/research-were-wa... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161007085247.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161007085247.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5885279/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5885279/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080108102225.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080108102225.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5394769/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5394769/ > There are now tons of research coming out about how cereals (wheat and corn specially) are basically the culprit of a lot of diseases Care to share more on what you are referring to?

aserdf 5y ago
(not op) for reference, 39g of oats contains 28g of carbohydrates. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you... - The biggest influence on blood cholesterol level is the mix of fats and carbohydrates in your diet—not the amount of cholesterol you eat from food. - Although it remains important to limit the amount of cholesterol you eat, especially if you have diabetes, for most people dietary cholesterol is not as problematic as once believed.
- sizzle 5y ago
  What’s up with the conflicting info on carbohydrates? Should I skip the bowl of oatmeal every morning?
  - bruce343434 5y ago
    This seems to be a thing for pretty much every food/nutritional category. I've decided for myself to just "ignore" the science since the definition of "healthy" seems to change so often. Instead I try to use common sense for picking my meals.
  - bongoman37 5y ago
    Food science is highly politicised because of the massive amounts of lobbying involved. If you have the time and expertise, you should look at the actual paper, correlate it with things like sample size, age of participants, funders biases and then come up with your own conclusions. Also, research on oneself is great, vary something, measure whether it makes a positive difference, if yes, do more of it, if not, try something else. Lots of 'scientific' nutrition advice is outright wrong and harmful.
  - shlant 5y ago
    any nutrition advice that makes sweeping statements about entire macronutrients (protein/fat/carbohydrates) should be ignored and is mostly used to sell fad diets. "Carbohydrates" could be HFCS or leafy greens. "Fats" could be shortening or avocado. The nutrition of the individual food is much more important than the macronutrients.

voldacar 5y ago

dietary cholesterol has a negligible effect on blood cholesterol levels. Almost all cholesterol in the body is endogenously created

rhinoceraptor 5y ago
There's a U-shaped curve for all cause mortality with cholesterol levels, just like anything else. Cholesterol is not bad, it's literally the building block of steroid hormones, vitamin D, etc. Similarly, there's a good argument to be made that most people actually eat too little salt. If you compare most sodium guidelines to data of sodium intake versus all cause mortality, you're more at risk of death following the guidelines.