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Marketing BS, PR BS, etc. In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage that Intel can't easily mitigate/

Marketing BS, PR BS, etc. In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage that Intel can't easily mitigate/reduce.

PedroBatista 5y ago
Don't know what do you mean by "dominate the laptop market" because in terms of market share it certainly isn't. Also, contrary to popular belief the A14 and it's child/sibling the M1 isn't made of magic and the "double in every stuff" each generation train has long gone away ( see A15 ). The M1 is great, performance per watt is really great, but the "tech advantages" Apple has are due to Intel's horrible track record as a tech company in the last decade. I think the M1 was another "AMD moment" for Intel, I'm mildly optimistic they are starting to get their shit together. While I'm mildly certain Apple is starting to suffer from the same rot Intel has been suffering.
cromka 5y ago
> In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage that Intel can't easily mitigate/reduce Tech advantage is not what drives sales in laptop market. Price does. Unless Apple comes up with a $600 entry-level MacBook SE, to think that "Apple will dominate the laptop" is just absurd.
qayxc 5y ago
> In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage That's a very short-sighted view. The fact of the matter is that there's no offer from Apple in the $800 segment. There's also a lack of 2-in-1 devices (and arguably the iPad family cannot fill this niche as long as iPadOS remains dumbed-down). So unless the entire Laptop market shifts to $1000+ devices exclusively, there's no way this will happen. Unfortunately I cannot provide you with hard sales data, since the relevant market reports cost upwards $2.500, but their overall market share is about 10% [0] so go figure. [0] https://bit.ly/3pNAamq https://bit.ly/3pNAamq
- mnw21cam 5y ago
  Agreed. I bought my laptop four years ago for £600. It has a 3200x1800 bright and clear display, 8GB RAM, is thin and light, the battery lasts six hours, and I really don't care that the CPU is an Atom, because I'm always logged into a heavier system over the network. Apple isn't in my section of the market. I appreciate the technological advances that they are making - they're good. But it's not for me.

Marketing BS, PR BS, etc. In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage that Intel can't easily mitigate/reduce.

PedroBatista 5y ago

Don't know what do you mean by "dominate the laptop market" because in terms of market share it certainly isn't. Also, contrary to popular belief the A14 and it's child/sibling the M1 isn't made of magic and the "double in every stuff" each generation train has long gone away ( see A15 ). The M1 is great, performance per watt is really great, but the "tech advantages" Apple has are due to Intel's horrible track record as a tech company in the last decade. I think the M1 was another "AMD moment" for Intel, I'm mildly optimistic they are starting to get their shit together. While I'm mildly certain Apple is starting to suffer from the same rot Intel has been suffering.

cromka 5y ago

> In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage that Intel can't easily mitigate/reduce Tech advantage is not what drives sales in laptop market. Price does. Unless Apple comes up with a $600 entry-level MacBook SE, to think that "Apple will dominate the laptop" is just absurd.

qayxc 5y ago

> In the long run, Apple will dominate the laptop market, because there's a substantial tech advantage That's a very short-sighted view. The fact of the matter is that there's no offer from Apple in the $800 segment. There's also a lack of 2-in-1 devices (and arguably the iPad family cannot fill this niche as long as iPadOS remains dumbed-down). So unless the entire Laptop market shifts to $1000+ devices exclusively, there's no way this will happen. Unfortunately I cannot provide you with hard sales data, since the relevant market reports cost upwards $2.500, but their overall market share is about 10% [0] so go figure. [0] https://bit.ly/3pNAamq https://bit.ly/3pNAamq

mnw21cam 5y ago
Agreed. I bought my laptop four years ago for £600. It has a 3200x1800 bright and clear display, 8GB RAM, is thin and light, the battery lasts six hours, and I really don't care that the CPU is an Atom, because I'm always logged into a heavier system over the network. Apple isn't in my section of the market. I appreciate the technological advances that they are making - they're good. But it's not for me.