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It wouldn't make a difference in the comparison against M1 Max, but the benchmark was also done on Windows 11, which introduced bugs for AMD scheduling. Fixed n

It wouldn't make a difference in the comparison against M1 Max, but the benchmark was also done on Windows 11, which introduced bugs for AMD scheduling. Fixed now, but maybe the AMD results have been skewed because of this. Overall, this is the least scientific and realistic benchmark article ever - until people get their hands on the chips and test them properly everything is speculation. Also - competing for absolute benchmark rankings, when you still need to put a discrete GPU in an intel laptop to even connect a 4k screen is meaningless - people should stop making purchasing decisions just based on benchmarks.

thereddaikon 5y ago
The use of Geekbench also hurts it. Its one of the least realistic synthetic benchmarks around and one of the easiest to game. I'm not sure what you're on about in regards to 4k needing a dGPU. That's not true.
caskstrength 5y ago
> you still need to put a discrete GPU in an intel laptop to even connect a 4k screen What do you mean by this? I started using 4k screen with my shitty employer-issued Intel-based Lenovo laptop more than 4 years ago.
vladvasiliu 5y ago
> you still need to put a discrete GPU in an intel laptop to even connect a 4k screen What do you mean by this? I have an 8th gen i5u in an HP laptop at work, and it's been driving an external 4k@60Hz screen for years. It has no dedicated GPU at all, just the integrated UHD 620 or something like that. It can even daisy chain two external displays, in addition to the integrated panel. Not sure if it can drive two external 4k like this, I only have FHD + 4K to test.
- tandr 5y ago
  I somehow cannot make same setup HP work with 4k@60Hz at all - 4k@30Hz works, but not 60Hz. Would you be kind an post screenshot (link to an imgur.com) showing that this indeed, is possible, and I shall have hope? Also, what monitors do you have, sorry?
  - vladvasiliu 5y ago
    Best I can do is show you the output of xrandr, I don't run Windows on that computer. https://pastebin.com/raw/8W4wK2Qj https://pastebin.com/raw/8W4wK2Qj The display is an LG, can't remember the model, but it worked with multiple other displays, HP, Dell, etc. Your issue may be related to the connection. The limitation of 30 Hz makes me think you're connecting via HDMI. If that's all you have, you're SoL. 4k@60 requires HDMI 2, but Intel CPUs only recently have got that. 8th gen certainly doesn't have it. You need DisplayPort for this to work. Laptops don't often have DP connectors, but they may have USB-C and/or Thunderbolt with DP alt-mode. This is what I use, hence the DP-xxx output name. If you look closely, there's the DP logo next to the USB-C connector for my particular model: https://wu-tc-shop.com/WebRoot/Store11/Shops/a31626df-5333-4e17-81ac-5e39cfdb3c91/5C58/008A/2481/A80F/7B76/0A48/3534/D4CB/ProBook_430_G5_5.jpg https://wu-tc-shop.com/WebRoot/Store11/Shops/a31626df-5333-4...
    - tandr 5y ago
      Thank you for such extended answer. I do have HDMI on it, so I guess it will have to wait until next hardware refresh cycle.
gpderetta 5y ago
I have a 10 years old X220 (Sandy Bridge + integrated Intel HD 3000) which does 4k just fine (but at 30hz).

thereddaikon 5y ago

The use of Geekbench also hurts it. Its one of the least realistic synthetic benchmarks around and one of the easiest to game. I'm not sure what you're on about in regards to 4k needing a dGPU. That's not true.

caskstrength 5y ago

> you still need to put a discrete GPU in an intel laptop to even connect a 4k screen What do you mean by this? I started using 4k screen with my shitty employer-issued Intel-based Lenovo laptop more than 4 years ago.

vladvasiliu 5y ago

> you still need to put a discrete GPU in an intel laptop to even connect a 4k screen What do you mean by this? I have an 8th gen i5u in an HP laptop at work, and it's been driving an external 4k@60Hz screen for years. It has no dedicated GPU at all, just the integrated UHD 620 or something like that. It can even daisy chain two external displays, in addition to the integrated panel. Not sure if it can drive two external 4k like this, I only have FHD + 4K to test.

tandr 5y ago
I somehow cannot make same setup HP work with 4k@60Hz at all - 4k@30Hz works, but not 60Hz. Would you be kind an post screenshot (link to an imgur.com) showing that this indeed, is possible, and I shall have hope? Also, what monitors do you have, sorry?
- vladvasiliu 5y ago
  Best I can do is show you the output of xrandr, I don't run Windows on that computer. https://pastebin.com/raw/8W4wK2Qj https://pastebin.com/raw/8W4wK2Qj The display is an LG, can't remember the model, but it worked with multiple other displays, HP, Dell, etc. Your issue may be related to the connection. The limitation of 30 Hz makes me think you're connecting via HDMI. If that's all you have, you're SoL. 4k@60 requires HDMI 2, but Intel CPUs only recently have got that. 8th gen certainly doesn't have it. You need DisplayPort for this to work. Laptops don't often have DP connectors, but they may have USB-C and/or Thunderbolt with DP alt-mode. This is what I use, hence the DP-xxx output name. If you look closely, there's the DP logo next to the USB-C connector for my particular model: https://wu-tc-shop.com/WebRoot/Store11/Shops/a31626df-5333-4e17-81ac-5e39cfdb3c91/5C58/008A/2481/A80F/7B76/0A48/3534/D4CB/ProBook_430_G5_5.jpg https://wu-tc-shop.com/WebRoot/Store11/Shops/a31626df-5333-4...
  - tandr 5y ago
    Thank you for such extended answer. I do have HDMI on it, so I guess it will have to wait until next hardware refresh cycle.

gpderetta 5y ago

I have a 10 years old X220 (Sandy Bridge + integrated Intel HD 3000) which does 4k just fine (but at 30hz).