> You could just view the poachers as an environmental hazard to tusked elephants, in which case this would be a perfect example of natural selection. Yes okay

> You could just view the poachers as an environmental hazard to tusked elephants, in which case this would be a perfect example of natural selection. Yes okay you can say this... But if you are saying that poachers/humans are part of nature, then nothing in the world is "unnatural" anymore. I think this line of reasoning, while valid, is less precise and less interesting.